Syracuse and Stanford go home DEVASTATED!

SweetRder wrote:

Cuse will be fine. They did a total ball buster workout a week ago. I know a lot of teams probably did too but they'll put it together. Slipping a little early will benefit them for November.

#Orangeisthenewfast

Sweetrider, is that the Sweet Road workout? How long is that? Thanks!

duck duck win wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

When was the last time Oregon dominated NCAA Cross?!

nobody can catch ches this year

You know that's not what we're talking about & you also know you're ducking the question.

The 29 year old fathers of 3 from BYU looked solid.

Goucher Needles wrote:

The 29 year old fathers of 3 from BYU looked solid.

Funny you should bring this up. I'm fairly certain that all of BYU's top five are under 22 (a couple might actually be 22 - not sure). Only two of the top five have gone on missions and they've both been back for under two years.

Shadow Lurker wrote:

duck duck win wrote:

nobody can catch ches this year

You know that's not what we're talking about & you also know you're ducking the question.

Oregon is on record stating that they will not recruit with an eye towards XC titles. It's about Track.

Hoyas all day wrote:

could not agree more wrote:

THIS.

Truth

I'm going to let you guys in on a secret.....training makes you faster....

Have you seen how many distance track/xc titles Oregon has had in the past 4 years? I would call that domination...

A Duck. wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

You know that's not what we're talking about & you also know you're ducking the question.

Oregon is on record stating that they will not recruit with an eye towards XC titles. It's about Track.

Not impressed wrote:

Iseewhatyouresaying wrote:

Although a unpopular point of view, I agree. While Justyn Knight may be an amazing runner, it takes 5 guys to win a title. Not one (team wise). If Oregon can put a cross team together (doubtful) then they could easily when the title.

Not sure why it's "doubtfull" that Oregon could put a team together. They're consistently the best distance program in the country. I could definitely see them dominating again this year.

They have kids who can fly on a track but can't run 10k on grass. Call it the Jake Leingang Effect

Pretentious D1 Coach wrote:

I'm going to let you guys in on a secret.....training makes you faster....

Here is a secret for you.... Your post has nothing to do with our posts.

A Duck. wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

You know that's not what we're talking about & you also know you're ducking the question.

Oregon is on record stating that they will not recruit with an eye towards XC titles. It's about Track.

That's nice. Everyone knows that. No one is denying that. But this conversation is obviously about men's cross country. If it were about men's track, you & the poster suggesting their "dominance" would be more accurate.

Jealous much? wrote:

Have you seen how many distance track/xc titles Oregon has had in the past 4 years? I would call that domination...

A Duck. wrote:

Oregon is on record stating that they will not recruit with an eye towards XC titles. It's about Track.

Exactly zero in the men's team XC race. Which is clearly what this conversation is about.

They should rank teams based on actual performance in meets and have a national semifinal and then final between the top 4 teams. That will put an end to all the ducking and dodging.

What do you thinking Coaching at the NCAA level is?? We aren't reinventing the wheel here for distance running. College Coaching is mainly recruiting and keeping your team healthy and fit. And if you took anytime you would see that every Kenyan and almost every athlete in the Campbell distance program has improved every single year. And Coach Kelly and the Camels qualified 11 Student athletes to the Regional meet last year more than many major NCAA programs and lots of schools with way more money than Campbell. As someone said in another thread what do you expect Campbell to do?? Just continue to do poorly?? And accept their place in the NCAA? If everyone did that we wouldn't have great stories like George Mason, New Mexico or even Wisconsin back in 2005!!...... Campbell hasn't been turning down FootLocker or NXN finalists, they have been getting better the only way they can. So you are made they are doing it with Internationals "Kenyans" please tell me how else they should be doing it??

And on a final thought please tell me what makes a Kenyan athlete deserves a scholarship any less than anyone else or an American kid?? And before you answer remember Campbell is a Private school. And think about the change in the world that each one of these international athletes can make in their hometowns.

they call me flopro wrote:

Too bad Drew Hunter went pro Oregon would be a look to Win NCAA with King Ches and Hunter more then likely going 1-2 at NCAA's this year. :(

I seem to recall that failing when Ches and Eric Jenkins went 1 and 2. They still got 6th haha

Not impressed wrote:

black runner wrote:

Stanford didn't run their top guys.

Even if they did and went 1-2 they still would have been 3rd... they're terrible.

No, not at all, actually even if McGorty and Fisher went 2-3 they still win

Stanford 44

BYU 49

Syracuse 52

I think you're forgetting that if McGorty and Fisher place higher then BYU's top 5 all add 2 points each man, same for Syracuse except 8 points if Knight still finished 1st

I think McGorty and Fisher could have easily gone 2-3 or maybe McGorty beats out Knight for the win, so looking at it, Stanford should be feeling pretty good right now. Syracuse on the hard should be pretty worried, their #2 from last year had a ok result, their #3 was good, but #4/#5 weren't and that's what's going to hurt them the most, one of their top guys dropped out after 2k

With Stanford they still haven't raced Ostberg too, if Keelan can get back into his 23:20's form from last year, and Wharton or Miller or Lauer will come through right with him for that 4th-5th man they're going to be hard to beat

So no, they didn't go home DEVESTATED

Not impressed wrote:

BYU looks great and in my mind have to be one of the favorites now.

This comment literally made me laugh out loud. Such a naive statement. One decent race against a field of teams that obviously didn't take it as seriously as other might and suddenly all other teams fade away and they are a "favorite?"

If you're saying "favorite" in the sense that they have an outside shot at a podium finish then okaaaaay, but to win???? Is 0% chance too aggressive? Because that's what I'm giving them.

I'm not hating, I'm just saying it like it is. Let's re-access after Wisconsin shall we?

Ps- I am a Y grad.

Sparky Anderson wrote:

Not impressed wrote:

BYU looks great and in my mind have to be one of the favorites now.

This comment literally made me laugh out loud. Such a naive statement. One decent race against a field of teams that obviously didn't take it as seriously as other might and suddenly all other teams fade away and they are a "favorite?"

If you're saying "favorite" in the sense that they have an outside shot at a podium finish then okaaaaay, but to win???? Is 0% chance too aggressive? Because that's what I'm giving them.

I'm not hating, I'm just saying it like it is. Let's re-access after Wisconsin shall we?

Ps- I am a Y grad.

So the fact that you majored in "Y" (whatever that means), makes you an expert in the field? And no one said all teams fade away, just that BYU joins the other teams in contention for the win. Remember last year people where writing off Syracuse at the beginning of the season because CU was "just too good", and look what happened, one perfect day and Syracuse won nationals. I don't see why you would hate on BYU and LOL, probably a Syracuse or Stanford fanboy...