Wilson Kipketer is the greatest 800m runner in history. Better than Coe & Rudisha. Could not be touched in his prime. 96/97 kipketer would have won London 2012.
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Doped to the gills, just like the other mid distance titans from the late 90s.
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Rudisha ahead in most cases
Wilson Kipketer
1:41.11 (4th fastest performance ever)
Olympic Champ = 0
World Champ = 3
World Records x 5 (includes 2 indoors)
Sub 1:42 x 4
Sub 1:45 x 75
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.99
Win percentage 70.00% (not including heats) 63 out of 90
David Rudisha
1:40.91 WR
Olympic Champ = 2
World Champ = 2
World Records x 3
Sub 1:42 x 7
Sub 1:45 x 65
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.53!!
Win percentage 74.68% (not including heats) 59 out of 79 -
Kipketer, then Snell, then Rudisha, the Coe or Juantorena.
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Times are not entirely relevant as we are comparing 3 consecutive eras. Also, % wins not that relevant as both Coe & kipketer competed at levels well below their best. Let's compare Coe 81, kipketer 97 & Rudisha 12...
JRinaldi wrote:
Rudisha ahead in most cases
Wilson Kipketer
1:41.11 (4th fastest performance ever)
Olympic Champ = 0
World Champ = 3
World Records x 5 (includes 2 indoors)
Sub 1:42 x 4
Sub 1:45 x 75
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.99
Win percentage 70.00% (not including heats) 63 out of 90
David Rudisha
1:40.91 WR
Olympic Champ = 2
World Champ = 2
World Records x 3
Sub 1:42 x 7
Sub 1:45 x 65
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.53!!
Win percentage 74.68% (not including heats) 59 out of 79 -
Could Coe 81 or Kipketer 97 have beaten Rudisha 12 when he ran 1:40.91 if they sat on him all the way...maybe.
Could Coe or Kipketer done so leading all the way in an Olympic Final - no way.
Rudisha's run is the greatest performance (not just time) over 800m ever. -
I'm jumping out of this thread now - Calculo ruins every thread with the same old same old. I'm sure this comment will be deleted.
Have fun with his rubbish. -
calculo wrote:
all-time list for 70's track, smooth-drafting to bell, off slowing 0.25s for 200s from gun-tape for TT with just protagonist & perfect-wabbit from break - bell in 1-off diamond league in 0 wind at 70F
Ryun - 1'39-mid / high
Big-Man - 1'40-flat
Wilson - 1'40-low
others who also woud dip into 1'40s behind above woud include Asbel / Bernie / Noah in their 3'26 / 3'43 / 2'11 shape
i'd also include Alf in his 1'42.87-race
cruz at worst 1'41-flat if fully rested for koln, so include him
Mal Whitfield in outrageous 21-high 440y in a 1'48+ on dirt in '40s / '50s !!!
no others
Utter garbage, Ryun might run 1:42/43 in a top tier modern race but that is a stretch. There is absolutely no way he is in the same league as Kipketer. Snell was better than Juantorena.
Lagat would struggle to go under 1:45, Ngeny was a 1:43 man maybe high 1:42 in a good race. Kiprop is a 1:43 man and that is about all he can do, he is more of a very fast runner he is not an explosive sprinter type like Makh.
Man what a load of nonsense. -
1:41.09
1:41.01
1:40.91
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JRinaldi wrote:
Rudisha ahead in most cases
Wilson Kipketer
1:41.11 (4th fastest performance ever)
Olympic Champ = 0
World Champ = 3
World Records x 5 (includes 2 indoors)
Sub 1:42 x 4
Sub 1:45 x 75
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.99
Win percentage 70.00% (not including heats) 63 out of 90
David Rudisha
1:40.91 WR
Olympic Champ = 2
World Champ = 2
World Records x 3
Sub 1:42 x 7
Sub 1:45 x 65
Ave 10 fastest times = 1:41.53!!
Win percentage 74.68% (not including heats) 59 out of 79
Man, what an awesome post...thanks -
that indoor WR is pretty tasty (1:42.67)
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delicious wrote:
that indoor WR is pretty tasty (1:42.67)
That was set in the world indoor championship. He had also run a WR in the semis. -
The IAAF would only pay Kipketer the bonus on his WR run in the final.
He wanted a bonus payment for WR in semi and final. -
Not sure if Juantorena might not have been the best.
Remember, they had to run 400 in lanes at that time, making it almost impossible to get a pace from a rabbit.
Watch the 1976 Olympic race. -
vincent44 wrote:
The IAAF would only pay Kipketer the bonus on his WR run in the final.
He wanted a bonus payment for WR in semi and final.
I would expect to get paid twice as well. That's crap. -
Was Juantorena also doped to the gills?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gill#/media/File:Carp_gill_defect.jpg -
Rudisha
Best performance ever over 800m
Two Olympic golds at 800m
Fastest time ever run
Multiple world records -
Any Which Way But Loose wrote:
Not sure if Juantorena might not have been the best.
Remember, they had to run 400 in lanes at that time, making it almost impossible to get a pace from a rabbit.
Watch the 1976 Olympic race.
300 not 400, moran -
If Ventolin is going with hypothetical times he needs to include T8.
Dirt track, no training,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/modern-man-a-wimp-says-anthropologist-1802501.html -
No, it's Rudisha. He's so dominant. He has the times, records, medals, and wins. No flaws and a beautiful runner.
