Ummm...Man wrote:
Bob Schul Country wrote:2:07 does not equal a sub 5 for a guy with no aerobic development. His 2nd 800 would likely be 2:50
Ummm. . . 2:07 + 2:50 = 4:57
Well, he probably wouldn't run an 800 PR for his first two laps of a mile race, so maybe Bob is suggesting he would split something like 2:20/2:50. But it was poorly worded and in any case Bob is a dipshat.
benefit of the doubt wrote:He still has another 9 meters to gonot only that but it's kinda dumb to think that he's going to run the first 800 meters of a 1609 meter race running the same pace as the fastest 800 he's ever run.
Do I think Bolt could run sub 5 today? Highly unlikely.
Give him 8 weeks training and a big incentive, I'd bet my car he could do it.
2:07 800m is certainly not a max effort.
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VDOT for 2:07 0.8km: 66.8
Equivalent race times based on VDOT:
Marathon: 02:28:59
Half marathon: 01:11:09
15K: 00:49:28
10K: 00:32:15
5K: 00:15:32
3Mi: 00:14:57
2Mi: 00:09:39
3200m: 00:09:35
3K: 00:08:56
1Mi: 00:04:30
1600m: 00:04:29
1500m: 00:04:10
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Lol you believe that running a 2:07 800 equates to an 8:56 for 3k? I'll put this in perspective; my friend was top 8 at the indoor PA state meet a few years back in the 3k and ran 8:55 in that race. Yet the state qualifying time for the 800 for PA indoors is 2:01. Hmmm...I'd be pretty disappointed if a 2:07 800 got you into any high school state meet, as much as I'd be disappointed if an 8:56 3k didn't.
PrZ wrote:
TrackBot wrote:VDOT for 2:07 0.8km: 66.8
Equivalent race times based on VDOT:
Marathon: 02:28:59
Half marathon: 01:11:09
15K: 00:49:28
10K: 00:32:15
5K: 00:15:32
3Mi: 00:14:57
2Mi: 00:09:39
3200m: 00:09:35
3K: 00:08:56
1Mi: 00:04:30
1600m: 00:04:29
1500m: 00:04:10
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http://habs.sdf.org/trackbotLol you believe that running a 2:07 800 equates to an 8:56 for 3k? I'll put this in perspective; my friend was top 8 at the indoor PA state meet a few years back in the 3k and ran 8:55 in that race. Yet the state qualifying time for the 800 for PA indoors is 2:01. Hmmm...I'd be pretty disappointed if a 2:07 800 got you into any high school state meet, as much as I'd be disappointed if an 8:56 3k didn't.
Assumes equal development. 800 comes much from speed, so you don't need to have a crazy endurance base to run 2:07 if you're got wheels.
Another way of clearly seeing this asking whether you would expect your generic 2:05 HSer to go out and run sub 2:30 marathon. My guess is that you'd say hell no.
But then if you look at it from the midpoint, it looks about right. Well trained, high mileage 15:30 5k guy running sub 2:30? Pretty plausible.
Why are we taking his 2:07 800m time as a grain of salt like that's his top ability
He's raced the 400m and ran a 45 great, he's never raced the 800m, do you guys honestly think he's only capable of a 2:07?
Yes, 45 to 2:07 is a huge drop off, and by that translation probably would equate to sub 5, but if he's faster than a 2:07, that changes a lot
TRACKBOT! VDOT 12.98 100M
NOP Skeptic wrote:
Why are we taking his 2:07 800m time as a grain of salt like that's his top ability
He's raced the 400m and ran a 45 great, he's never raced the 800m, do you guys honestly think he's only capable of a 2:07?
we arent talking about what he could run. We are talking about what he can run
VDOT for 12.98 0.1km: 78.2
Equivalent race times based on VDOT:
Marathon: 02:10:05
Half marathon: 01:02:05
15K: 00:43:13
10K: 00:28:12
5K: 00:13:33
3Mi: 00:13:03
2Mi: 00:08:24
3200m: 00:08:21
3K: 00:07:47
1Mi: 00:03:56
1600m: 00:03:54
1500m: 00:03:38
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I read somewhere (probably here in some old threads) that Bolt ran 1.57 as a junior.
Bob Schul Country wrote:
2:07 does not equal a sub 5 for a guy with no aerobic development. His 2nd 800 would likely be 2:50
Nothing is more entertaining than mental retardation.
Bob Schul Country wrote:
2:07 does not equal a sub 5 for a guy with no aerobic development. His 2nd 800 would likely be 2:50
2:07+2:50=4:57
What a moran .
If he could string 10 of those 2:07s in a workout, he'd run a 2:07 marathon guaranteed. Bart Yasso told me so.
TRACKBOT! VDOT 14:00 5000m
VDOT for 14:00 5.0km: 75.4
Equivalent race times based on VDOT:
Marathon: 02:14:14
Half marathon: 01:04:04
15K: 00:44:35
10K: 00:29:05
5K: 00:13:59
3Mi: 00:13:28
2Mi: 00:08:41
3200m: 00:08:37
3K: 00:08:02
1Mi: 00:04:03
1600m: 00:04:02
1500m: 00:03:45
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Sasuke wrote:
I read somewhere (probably here in some old threads) that Bolt ran 1.57 as a junior.
And what, Bolt forgot to mention that in the interview? When asked if he could break 5 in the mile he replied "I have run 2:07 in the 800m" and you think he actually meant "I have run 2:07 in the 800m and when I was a junior I ran 1:57".
He didn't. He ran 2:07 like he said. Don't take hearsay on Letsrun to be truth.
he's run 45 early in the season. I have no doubt at all that he would run 44--probably 43--at the height of the season.
jjjjjj wrote:
he's run 45 early in the season. I have no doubt at all that he would run 44--probably 43--at the height of the season.
43!
jjjjjj wrote:
he's run 45 early in the season. I have no doubt at all that he would run 44--probably 43--at the height of the season.
Also understand that if he get faster over the 400 during the season as you suggest, he will get slower in the longer distances as he focuses on the sprints. And he hasn't broken 46 since 2010.
Bolt is a 45/46 runner all day. Not a 43 runner. Nowhere near.
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon