FancyBears: leak 3

BelieveIt wrote:

-It's looking like they don't get "binders full of TUEs" as the 5 homers on Let's Run like to claim.

Where was that postulated, Mr. Salazar?

There's only 5? Do we operate a bot network?

Chain of command wrote:

... should be the choice drug for athletes with asthma, as it has no PED effects in reasonable amounts.

Weight loss. It's great for weight loss and safe.

Dead Nike Lunar Forever 2s wrote:

rjm33 wrote:

Claritin is not a performance enhancing anabolic steroid that is banned by WADA.

Claritin is not a schedule III controlled substance.

Claritin is also available over-the-counter (OTC) WITHOUT a prescription.

It is an antihistamine.

https://www.drugs.com/pro/claritin.html

Try again troll pup.

Does this actually help your performance? because I've got some sitting here.

I was out of the sport for about a decade but from I remember these cough/cold mixtures were being used as masking agents.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Chain of command wrote:

(salbutamol) should be the choice drug for athletes with asthma, as it has no PED effects in reasonable amounts.

Weight loss. It's great for weight loss and safe.

I said it before, yes indeed Ventolin (tradename for albuterol/salbutamol) is marketed primarily as a weight loss drug in most places.

Glaxo rep wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Weight loss. It's great for weight loss and safe.

I said it before, yes indeed Ventolin (tradename for albuterol/salbutamol) is marketed primarily as a weight loss drug in most places.

It's also great for bloating threads.

What's up Doc wrote:

"Rasmussen, who twice won the Tour’s King of the Mountains jersey, has explained that Leinders helped him get the false medical certificates he needed to be granted TUEs by the UCI and Wada."

This seems to be common practice in most sports, including T&F, just find a compliant doc like Alberto's Doc Brown and fly your athlete down there.

"Bradley Wiggins denies disgraced doctor gave him banned steroid under TUE"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/17/bradley-wiggins-denies-doctor-geert-leinders-gave-banned-steroid-tue

Haha. Geert and Wiggins finally getting some bad press. Long, long long overdue.

Froome is long overdue.

These IOC sports are a joke.

What's up Doc wrote:

"Rasmussen, who twice won the Tour’s King of the Mountains jersey, has explained that Leinders helped him get the false medical certificates he needed to be granted TUEs by the UCI and Wada."

This seems to be common practice in most sports, including T&F, just find a compliant doc like Alberto's Doc Brown and fly your athlete down there.

"Bradley Wiggins denies disgraced doctor gave him banned steroid under TUE"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/17/bradley-wiggins-denies-doctor-geert-leinders-gave-banned-steroid-tue

Haha. Geert and Wiggins finally getting some bad press. Long, long long overdue.

Froome is long overdue.

These IOC sports are a joke.

Siobhan-Marie O'Connor has well-documented Inflammatory Bowel Disease and prednisolone is apparently a front line treatment for the condition when someone gets an acute flare up. American medalist Kathleen Baker likely has a similar TUE card on file.

https://www.crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/news/olympic-medallists-raise-the-profile-of-ibd

Large-scale ping-pong wrote:

trollism wrote:

Don't you think it's interesting that Serena has won 22 Grand Slam titles, but during only one she requested a TUE?

Does that suggest cheating, or perhaps she needed one this time?

Given the backdated nature, just as likely story is that she requested it after being caught.

So they only caught her 1/22 times, and even she then she went the retrodated TUE route, to have her reputation.

Let's not forget that the ITF and related tested bodies are so convinced that Serena is clean that they don't see much need to test her, particularly out of competition. In 2010 she was not subject to a single out of competition drug test. Likewise in 2011. (ITF data.)

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

What's up Doc wrote:

"Bradley Wiggins denies disgraced doctor gave him banned steroid under TUE"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/17/bradley-wiggins-denies-doctor-geert-leinders-gave-banned-steroid-tue

Haha. Geert and Wiggins finally getting some bad press. Long, long long overdue.

Froome is long overdue.

These IOC sports are a joke.

1) If a leak and/or accusation is seen as of little concern to the repuation and standing of the cyclist/athlete, they let it blow over with no comment.

2) If it is somewhat of concern, they get a spokesman to comment. (or in the case of Coe/Radcliffe, they use the IAAF as their 'spokesman'.)

3) If it is really concerning, the athlete/cyclist will give a doe-eyed interview, possibly shedding the odd tear, and plead complete innocence whilst re-iterating a lifelong opposition against and hatred of drug-taking in all forms.

Wiggins' camp have identified this as a Type #2 case.

beachmouse wrote:

Siobhan-Marie O'Connor has well-documented Inflammatory Bowel Disease and prednisolone is apparently a front line treatment for the condition when someone gets an acute flare up. American medalist Kathleen Baker likely has a similar TUE card on file.

https://www.crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/news/olympic-medallists-raise-the-profile-of-ibd

Could IBS become the new asthma?

I would have thought the side effects of long term Prednisolone use would outweigh the benefits of use for IBS.

Alan Webb's Goggles wrote:

Could IBS become the new asthma?

I would have thought the side effects of long term Prednisolone use would outweigh the benefits of use for IBS.

Be careful! They have IBD, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, not IBS, Inflammatory Bowel Syndrome. They are not the same thing. IBD is a general term for chronic inflammation of the digestive tract. Most cases are IBD are either ulcerative colitis and Crohn's Disease. Both are very serious diseases; like asthma, they can kill. In the meantime, they can make life hell.

As for whether IBD could become the new asthma, I'm not sure. There is such a thing as "exercise induced asthma." This real disease provides the medical foundation for the "diagnosis" of "training induced asthma." I'm not sure there's a comparable "exercises induced IBD" to provide a medical foundation for the "diagnosis" of "training induced IBD."

On the other hand, the number of asthma TUEs suggests that many elite athletes are shameless, so it's probably dangerous to say it won't ever happen.

PS That steroids are the drug of choice shows how serious these diseases are. Most of the other drugs have even worse side effects than steroids. The surgeries usually involve removing large pieces of your gut. And, in the case of Crohn's the surgery may only provide temporary relief; eventually, you can run out of gut.