The Russians Have Hacked WADA: Leaked Drug Tests/TUEs - Real or Not?

These guys are going after the Americans, which means that we'll finally learn what are Rupp's TUE's. Oh what a wonderful day that will be.

bitcoin wrote:

Obviously this is an anti-american thing, but they are taking bitcoin donations so someone should offer them money to give up the British data as well. I'm sure a lot of people here would pay to see Mo's report.

A single bitcoin is worth hundreds of dollars, I'm not going to give them that much money

Can you cut a bitcoin into 8 pieces like an old Spanish coin? You should be able to because that's the origin of the term "bit" I think.

His son is in his 30s. Obviously wasn't a teenager at the time of the test(2008 or 2009?) I notice you say this a lot.

I do agree all TUEs should be out in the open for everyone to see.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Can you cut a bitcoin into 8 pieces like an old Spanish coin?

This is either brilliant or moronic. Which is it?

Tennis Forum completely outed Serena as a TUE cheat.http://fancybear.net/docs/Serena%20Williams/339141436.pdf

So which of the "strict" retroactive TUE exemptions applied?

Is there an "acute medical condition" that needs prednisolone, that simultaneously wouldn't ruin the tennis final as a competition?

Large-scale ping-pong wrote:

Tennis Forum completely outed Serena as a TUE cheat.

http://fancybear.net/docs/Serena%20Williams/339141436.pdf

TUE for prednisolone, 40mg a day from 5 June to 7 June (2015) and 20 mg a day from 8 June to 10 June.

Prednisolone appears to have a massive performance-enhancing short-term effect.

The date of the 2015 Roland Garros final was 6 June.

Serena had to play 3-set matches in Paris in R2, R3, R4, the SF and the Final.

And the TUE is dated 8 June, 3 days after she started taking it.

Given that tennis famously only seems to test the losers in the KO, she could have been using it much prior to June 5.

Wasn't Gatlin under 4:1 when he tested positive for testosterone?

If this data was obtained by phishing rather than a data grab then I don't think they will have that much information to release. Certainly nothing that interesting. Just some TUEs grabbed from a handful of people who were thick enough to fall for the scam and hand over their passwords.

Based on what has been released so far, this isn't going to be earth shattering.

southernfriedrealist wrote:

Wasn't Gatlin under 4:1 when he tested positive for testosterone?

Yeah gatlin was 0.2 as in 1:5 lol. Most are around 1:1. They knew because he was a "low mode" individual he could add more T before hitting too high a testosterone:epitestosterone ratio. Still the CIR test they applied to him should not be applied to someone with such low test in urine and such a low t:e ratio.

ITF testing policy maker wrote:

Large-scale ping-pong wrote:

Tennis Forum completely outed Serena as a TUE cheat.

http://fancybear.net/docs/Serena%20Williams/339141436.pdf

Given that tennis famously only seems to test the losers in the KO, she could have been using it much prior to June 5.

Empty handed wrote:

If this data was obtained by phishing rather than a data grab then I don't think they will have that much information to release. Certainly nothing that interesting. Just some TUEs grabbed from a handful of people who were thick enough to fall for the scam and hand over their passwords.

Based on what has been released so far, this isn't going to be earth shattering.

On the other hand , if they only got a few people's information , and each and everyone of them had approved drug use, then someone reasonably skeptical might really wonder what the hell is going on.

Depends doesn't it. If they got hold of the data of an athlete without any TUEs on file would they bother to publish it?

Ross Tucker has tweeted about the leaked info:

This hack thing is disturbing on many levels. I'm all for transparency as a concept, but not illegally. What it does threaten to show is...

..how out of control the TUE system is (which most knew already,right?). "It's within the rules" is exactly what many have been critical of

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On TUEs, it's crazy that you don't even need a TUE for cortisone out of competition. I'd say TUEs with SHORT time limits OOC, none in comp

So I'd say all TUEs scrapped in competition, & a compromise to find is how they're allowed out of competition. Must have time limits on them

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Even if they omit some, which they would , if you claim they only got a handful of records the ratio of hits is high, especially considering that two out of the 4 exposed that I have seen are superstars.

especially considering that two out of the 4 exposed that I have seen are superstars.

Which 2 are not? Maybe the BB girl is only media-hyped because her lifestyle choices fit the media-desired genre, but the other 3 are definitely superstars (or at least was for V. Williams, and she's been top 10 in the time period anyway) in their sports.

O.k. I don't follow tennis , didn't know Venus was that big. I guess simply by virtue of being and olympic BB player the other girl is a star, if not a superstar.

From the Russians:

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/775978335289614336

Tucker is just upset they didn't send him the leaks so he could have the scoop

If you think the TUE system is even within an order of magnitude as severe as the Russian doping system...then I just don't know what to say to you. It's like trying to argue with a conspiracy theorist that 9/11 wasn't an inside job orchestrated by the illuminati. Facts don't matter, logic doesn't matter, they just want to believe what they believe.