sprinthard wrote:
In a Joe Rogan podcast, Victor Conte claimed that Serina was the biggest drug cheat on the tour. She would tell testers that she was in one city, jet to another, and then claim that she had a family emergency. He said the entire tour knew that she dodged tests.
The next time something Victor Conte claims is validated (outside of the BALCO information) it will be the first time.
Victor claims a lot of things...
LRC just published a post about this:
(The link on the front page is broken right now)
Mr. Obvious wrote:
sprinthard wrote:In a Joe Rogan podcast, Victor Conte claimed that Serina was the biggest drug cheat on the tour. She would tell testers that she was in one city, jet to another, and then claim that she had a family emergency. He said the entire tour knew that she dodged tests.
The next time something Victor Conte claims is validated (outside of the BALCO information) it will be the first time.
Victor claims a lot of things...
What is obvious is how many people are afraid of TUE information being released.
Williams sisters on steroids, there's a surprise!
Let's have Mo's please.
It really concerns me regarding the fragile state of the worlds top sports stars, I always thought sport was good for you and made you healthier not sicker and requiring all this medication, it's friggin unbelievable.
your argument is flail
why would you need a TUE for eye drops?
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/therapeutic-use-exemptions
read up trolly, it has to be something on the "prohibited list" why would eye drops need to be a TUE? like someone said earlier, its cheating the PC way. you milk the system say you have some underlying issue and without the thyroid meds or CERA or HGH or stimulants then you just cant make it. you get nike or adidas or puma to get a legal team together, a few doctors who will claim your condition and booooom you can cheat LEGALY. and the best part of a TUE is you can use it throughout the entire SEASON.....no worries of testing hot cause you have a TUE for 4-5 issues, or maybe more!
sprinthard wrote:
cleans wrote:Holy Cow.
This is a well written site, suggesting that this is something quite well planned.
Looking forward to someone validating the authenticity of the Serena Williams documentation. :)
In a Joe Rogan podcast, Victor Conte claimed that Serina was the biggest drug cheat on the tour. She would tell testers that she was in one city, jet to another, and then claim that she had a family emergency. He said the entire tour knew that she dodged tests.
The 'panic room' story from 2011 is golden.
habs wrote:
LRC just published a post about this:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/09/russians-hacked-wada-want-think-simone-biles-drug-cheat-takes-adhd-medicine/(The link on the front page is broken right now)
Habs, will you be adding this to your Trackbot dope function?
TUEsday Afternoon wrote:
Amazing Excuses, TUEs wrote:It is amazing how many "posters" have already discounted release of TUE information. ‘It doesn't mean anything’—‘This information should be private’—blah, blah, blah.
It is very important to learn how many 'top' athletes need TUEs to be the 'best'. Most every knowledgeable person sees the granting of TUEs is very high for top athletes.
Exactly. TUE's often mean that you're good at paperwork. You're still taking stuff. I could get a TUE for testosterone tomorrow. Is that fair?
No, you can't just apply and have it granted. Athletes have been denied requests for asthma medication. At the same time, others have their TUEs rushed or backdated.
It isn't a perfect system, and whatever it is, it is poorly implemented. But don't spread mistruths.
got to love how there are masking agents on the prohibited list but if you get the TUE for it the waaaamo....really what on earth would a person need a chemical that masks PEDs for? so ridiculous
BritsRule wrote:
Williams sisters on steroids, there's a surprise!
Let's have Mo's please.
Let me guess - American athletes taking anything with a TUE = OK, Farah using a cold remedy 15 years ago = Doping
i agree with spencer wrote:
your argument is flail
why would you need a TUE for eye drops?
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/therapeutic-use-exemptionsread up trolly, it has to be something on the "prohibited list" why would eye drops need to be a TUE? like someone said earlier, its cheating the PC way. you milk the system say you have some underlying issue and without the thyroid meds or CERA or HGH or stimulants then you just cant make it. you get nike or adidas or puma to get a legal team together, a few doctors who will claim your condition and booooom you can cheat LEGALY. and the best part of a TUE is you can use it throughout the entire SEASON.....no worries of testing hot cause you have a TUE for 4-5 issues, or maybe more!
Venus Williams has Sjogrens Syndome, it's why she had a TUE for Cortico's. (You can get corticosteroids in the form of eyedrops, one of the issues with Sjogrens is dry eyes)
All of Serena's on there are short term use Corticosteroids (which are legal OOC competition anyway) and the rest are short term use painkillers. There's nothing interesting in this leak (so far)
Believe me, I'd be crowing if there was actually something of any substance, but there's not, so I'm not.
Here is the real issue revealed in the leak. Someone approved the TUE for all of these drugs for Williams:
oxycodone
hydromorphone
prednisone
prednisolone
methylprednisolone
Someone had to approve the 3rd, and then the 4th, and then the 5th, drugs, with no consideration (or maybe even malicious consideration), for what it meant for fairness and managing a clean sport.
Tennis ignored their drug problem worse than Track and Field, but this is a USADA thing. The human element in this TUE process is absolutely necessary, and its biggest weakness. That Zorzoli, who has been named in too many doping cases to count, as the only member of the supposed-to-be three person TUE board for cycling was able to rush Chris Froome's prednisolone TUE is a problem. That Chris Horner had his request denied exemplifies the system working. That there are two different outcomes for the same situation show that there are no guarantees for fairness.
check that on the peptide section that is not ok, unless you have a TUE for it
remember all the thyroid meds? well what is on the list
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) and im pretty sure getting a TUE for a thyroid issue will mask this, and that aukland dude is always ranting about how this is the new drug of choice
next, i remember Teg and Solinksi booth were taking platelet TUEs, which im sure is the this on the list Platelet-Derived Growth Factor (PDGF), now i give teg props for retiring soon after, cause he new something was up, he all the sudden crushes PR's in every distance and what changed? well he got a TUE for Platelet-Derived Growth Factor....
someone should post the list of the more famous athletes and then research the TUE they are on
WACK wack ............................hack hack ......
got to love this
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5140111&page=1
truth = seeing the light
but the commies and thought police will soon get rid of any other narrative
lets shine that light on nike / wada /iaaf ..................while can.
for the fascist commie totalitarian corporation that they are
Clerk wrote:
Here is the real issue revealed in the leak. Someone approved the TUE for all of these drugs for Williams:
oxycodone
hydromorphone
prednisone
prednisolone
methylprednisolone
Someone had to approve the 3rd, and then the 4th, and then the 5th, drugs, with no consideration (or maybe even malicious consideration), for what it meant for fairness and managing a clean sport.
Tennis ignored their drug problem worse than Track and Field, but this is a USADA thing. The human element in this TUE process is absolutely necessary, and its biggest weakness. That Zorzoli, who has been named in too many doping cases to count, as the only member of the supposed-to-be three person TUE board for cycling was able to rush Chris Froome's prednisolone TUE is a problem. That Chris Horner had his request denied exemplifies the system working. That there are two different outcomes for the same situation show that there are no guarantees for fairness.
The TUE's for the painkillers were all issued for short term use (a few days for each) They were issued during a time in which she wasn't competing as she was out with a serious injury (kinda makes sense, yes?)
The corticosteroids are all legal out of competition anyway but I guess it's safer to get a TUE anyway. How do you know they were issued with 'no consideration for the sport'? It's not like they're particularly performance enhancing. And this is over a period of about 6 years it seems.
Serena may or may not be doping properly, but to anyone with half a brain, her list of TUEs looks reasonable.
or this one
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/is-thyroid-replacement-a-performance-enhancing-drug/
now something else pretty interesting....
http://anabolic.org/the-side-effects-of-ped-abuse/
hmmm so HGH will cause hyperthyroidism, so you need T3 hormone to drop it back down, or if you take T3 and drop it low and claim its cause you are just training too hard then booom you get a TUE for thyroid issues, and next you get braces!
Clerk wrote:
Here is the real issue revealed in the leak. Someone approved the TUE for all of these drugs for Williams:
oxycodone
hydromorphone
prednisone
prednisolone
methylprednisolone
Someone had to approve the 3rd, and then the 4th, and then the 5th, drugs, with no consideration (or maybe even malicious consideration), for what it meant for fairness and managing a clean sport.
Tennis ignored their drug problem worse than Track and Field, but this is a USADA thing. The human element in this TUE process is absolutely necessary, and its biggest weakness. That Zorzoli, who has been named in too many doping cases to count, as the only member of the supposed-to-be three person TUE board for cycling was able to rush Chris Froome's prednisolone TUE is a problem. That Chris Horner had his request denied exemplifies the system working. That there are two different outcomes for the same situation show that there are no guarantees for fairness.
You think *this* is some kind of smoking gun? I have no interest in tennis or the Williams but there is nothing to see here.
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Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
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