Jenkins, Centro then COLBY ALEXANDER?!??

kimani wrote:

Jekyll and Hyde wrote:

These guys are nothing alike. The only thing they have in common is they both went to Oregon.

Also, I've never heard Wheating accused of being a "thinker."

I'll take Wheating's career to this point in a heart beat. Two Olympic teams, one of the fastest 1500 runners in American history, big Nike, multi-year contract. Hopefully he can come back with some big years. He's still young.

Alexander at this point has a huge upside. Who the heck knows what he can potentially go. The caliber of runner he is now running with can run super fast for 800. Can he run 1:46? How bout 1:45? Who knows? He's never run one in shape.

Can he run 3:30 some day. I say more than likely, yes. One of the most exciting new faces. Can't wait to see what the future holds.

Murphy is going to Europe. I say he'll finally run a qualifier time. Sub 3:36.

If he doesn't lead it through 800 yesterday in 1:53, he'd have been closer to Alexander at the finish.

Wheating wasted his career being a typical Duck, drinking and partying. He's done. Been done for years.

Murphy hit 1:53 at the half yesrerday and faded. No kick. If he runs the DL meet in Brussels on the 9th, the rabbit will hit at least 1:53, probably faster.

He is so fast at 800 right now I think he can run 3:34 or 3:35 but he's not strong enough to run any faster at this point in his career.

STAT MAN.. wrote:

This was the fastest top 3 finish in the history of the race. Over 700 World Class milers have run this race since 1981 and Jenkins, Centro and Colby raced to the combined fastest 1-2-3 finish in race history.

Jenkins 3:49.4 ranks #6 All-Time

Centro 3:49.5 ranks #7 All-Time

Colby 3:50.3 ranks #12 All-Time and is the fastest 3rd place time ever.

Colby would have won 31 of the 36 races with 3:50.3 and Centro would have won 32 of the past 36 races with 3:49.5.

Well when you have one of the top 3 800 meter athletes in the world let alone Oly medalist pushing you get a very speedy half ( he raced for the 800 bonus along with Centro) the past years tactical elements fell out go play you get fast times.Colby had nothing to loose and went for it as Jenkins at this Ducks fun run!

Can someone chime in why Oregon seems to have excellent post collegiate male success vs a colorado? Colorado has it on the women's side?

"Ducks fun run" HaHaHa

Regarding Oregon's post collegiate success vs Colorado on the men's side, Colorado recruits XC runners. Oregon recruits track runners that have all the tools to compete on the track. Oregon will sacrifice a little in XC recruiting this way but after college there is not much of a life for a pure XC runner with no track skills (skills like of speed, fast mile times even if you're a distance guy).

It's unreal how many Ducks have or are running pro. Off the top of my head are:

Centro

Rupp

Puskedra

Alexander

Jenkins

Fleet

McNamara

Greer

Goeghegan

Winn

Stinson

Gregorek

Acosta

Wheating

Minor (contract?)

Mercado (contract?)

Kwiatkowski (contract?

Thompson (contract?)

Probably missing a few too.

1) It's amazing to me how anyone who runs for Oregon is considered a duck. Jenkins, Gregorek and Goeghegan all were developed somewhere else.

2) It's amazing how so many super talented Ducks suck as pro.

Greer , Wheating and Fleet just to top the list.

3) It's amazing given how good he is now, how bad he was in college - Colby Alexander.

oregon isn't that great. They just get A LOT of talent.

You could also look at it glass half full.

1) Jenkins, Geoghegan and Gregorek decided to run a 5th year at Oregon because it was....Oregon. They then proceeded to have their best year(s) of college racing ever.

2) It's amazing how many of the guys on that list have had really good pro careers. Centro, Rupp, Puskedra, Jenkins, Winn, Wheating, MacNamara, Acosta (pretty much most of that list).

3) Alexander wasn't bad in college, just injured a lot. That's not always the coaches fault. He was an All-American on a winning DMR. He ran a sub 4:00 mile as a junior. He seems to be finally getting strong enough to handle the workload of what it takes to run at the level he is.

I believe it's ignorant not to admit that Oregon does a great job producing post-collegiate talent.

I have no allegiance to Oregon but I do notice that on these boards when someone says something positive about Oregon, more than likely the negative replies seem nasty and almost like the poster really has an axe to grind. The posts usually come off as not credible. Kind of like the above bash on UO.

To state that Oregon isn't great, they just get a lot of talent is a weak post.

If you are a high school mile stud why wouldn't you go to Oregon?

west side wrote:

If you are a high school mile stud why wouldn't you go to Oregon?

They don't give much to freshman. Unless your name is Drew Hunter. Sub 4:05 might get you books.

Another case of a classic distance runner without a kick, going to alberto and suddenly being able to run ridiculously fast at the mile. Nothing suspicious here.

PK FIYUR wrote:

Another case of a classic distance runner without a kick, going to alberto and suddenly being able to run ridiculously fast at the mile. Nothing suspicious here.

Jenkins ran the mile like once as a senior at Oregon. It was in a dual meet and he won it in 3:57. He's always had the ability to un a fast mile because....he's really fast.

Who EVER said Jenkins never had a kick before Salazar coached him?

He's always had a great kick. He out kicked King Chez in the homestretch to win the NCAA 3000 indoors. He out kicked Futsum to complete the 1-2 Oregon finish at NCAA XC his senior year. He's shown late race speed in every race he's ever run.

And don't mention he got beat at the line at the Trials and didn't make the team. The guy that edged him by 4 hundredths of a second went on to win silver in Rio.

That poster had to be posting tongue in cheek. Just to get a rise out of the gullible. No one is stupid enough to say Jenkins never had a kick. You fell for it.

One overlooked fact from this race was that Eric Jenkins became the 2nd fastest American in the history of this race only trailing Syney Maree's race from 1981.

Centro is now the #2 American ever.

Colby is now #6 for Americans.

Sydney Maree 3:47.52. 1981

Eric Jenkins 3:49.40. 2016

Mathew Centrowitz 3:49.50. 2016

Steve Scott. 3:49.77. 1983

Ross Donoghue. 3:50.10. 1983

Colby Alexander. 3:50.30

Considering this race has hosted many of history's greatest milers over the last 36 years, these efforts this weekend were just incredible.

Correction from above: Centro is # 3.

So Jenkins #2, Centro #3 and Colby #6 American times ever in the history of this historic race.