The mens 400m world record is a joke

I see no reason to accuse WvN of doping, but plenty of dopers have been religious (presumably deeply). Look at US sprinters and Moroccan/Bahraini distance runners.

Coach xyz wrote:

"Running scared" might just be the key. That makes it like swimming, where racers have to go balls out against the clock because they cannot see most of their competitors, and that's why there are so many records broken in swimming.

If that worked, we'd keep them in isolation, bring them out onto the track for 5min each and run alone (pick any lane). Only the audience would know who was leading. But we don't.

Karma Police wrote:

The new 400 guy has a hamsring niggle. It was strapped for the WR.

I wonder what time he could have run if 100% fit.

casual obsever wrote:

Karma Police wrote:

1. Van Niekerk is technically way superior to Johnson.

2. WVN has more natural talent than Johnson.

3. Johnson was taking. He was a good but not great HSer, broke his leg and came back much, much better (and bigger).

4. Johnson was from a more notorious drug era.

5. WVN is clean. A clean runner can beat a dirty one if they are technically and/or genetically sufficiently superior, and I think WVN is. Also, and here is the big one, WVN is deeply, deeply religious. If you knew much about the guy, it's very hard to believe he is taking.

1 + 2: Maybe.

3 + 4: Obviously.

5: Don't forget that WVN beat all the other talented dopers as well.

As for the religion: good joke. So I suppose your whole point 5 was ironic.

Bang on! Can't say he is clean. Look up on youtube bleacher report Michael Johnson (sorry I'm on a tablet), there is no way you could get that bulked cleanly.

Karma Police wrote:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

If Lewis doped then he is even more likely to know what it takes to run those times Bolt did. Youve got dopers running 9.8 so if clean they would be around 10.0 that makes Bolts 9.58 even more likely

A tall man would never have the strength to sprint like Bolt does without massively imporving strength. There was barely any testing in Jamaica back when Bolt set his records. Sine then he has slowed down and barely competes due to injury which someohow just clears up enough come championship time to somehow the beat rest of the worlds best half of home have a doping record anyway. Same trick Isenbeyeva did for latter years of here career.

Notice this new 400m WR guy has finished his season early as well!

The new 400 guy has a hamsring niggle. It was strapped for the WR.

Adidas would have given him a massive bonus for the gold & WR. Probably didn't need the money.

I don't trust any WR anymore but it is fun to see WvN's stride, which looks more like a runner's stride, compared to MJ's claims his gait was more efficient.

Wade's coach is an old white woman, so he is innocent because old white women can do no wrong.

whiteangel wrote:

Wade's coach is an old white woman, so he is innocent because old white women can do no wrong.

Yeah I saw that, his coach was on the golden girls.

Mope Dealer wrote:

I don't trust any WR anymore but it is fun to see WvN's stride, which looks more like a runner's stride, compared to MJ's claims his gait was more efficient.

I'm sure I've heard people say that Bolt ultimately sprints faster than others because of his tallness, giving him a longer stride. Well it's interesting that MJ set world records with a rather less rangey gait.

Given that they both held the 200m record, I think it reasonably demonstrates that the body shape you have isn't a huge defining factor in whether you will be a good or bad sprinter.

I wonder what time MJ could have run for the 100m?

the taller or longer legged are the more of an enhancement

with IGF-1 LR3 .

aduck2002 wrote:

the taller or longer legged are the more of an enhancement

with IGF-1 LR3 .

Interesting.

Mope Dealer wrote:

aduck2002 wrote:

the taller or longer legged are the more of an enhancement

with IGF-1 LR3 .

Interesting.

All aduck2002 talks about is IGF-1 LR3.

Everyone is on it apparently. I assume there is no test, or some would have been busted. Or else they microdose it.

Interesting, aduck, because Van Niekerk is 6" feet tall. Merritt is 6'2, James is 6'3. Congrats to Kihrani James on his 43.03 world record. That igflr31lrgfi3 really works for taller runners!

Jeff Wigand wrote:

lol lol lol lol wrote:

That Wayde van Niekerk is doping is a given, one does not run a 43-flat 400 on Wheaties and milk.

You're not in a position to know.

Of course not. I'm completely clueless. No experience with athletics at all--it's all completely pulled out of my ass. And Wayde van Niekerk has wonderful form, too!

cleans wrote:

I wonder what time MJ could have run for the 100m?

Pretty sure he ran something like 10.08. He didn't quite get under 10. Can't you just ask the Trackbot thing?

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

You're not in a position to know.

Of course not. I'm completely clueless. No experience with athletics at all--it's all completely pulled out of my ass. And Wayde van Niekerk has wonderful form, too!

Wonderful form. Perfect form. Carl Lewis looks like Paula "the clean" Radcliffe next to this man:

dfddsfsdfsdf wrote:

cleans wrote:

I wonder what time MJ could have run for the 100m?

Pretty sure he ran something like 10.08. He didn't quite get under 10. Can't you just ask the Trackbot thing?

His PR was 10.09, but that was considerably slower than he was capable of at his best. He ran 10.12 around a turn for the 1st 100 of his 19.32.

the taller the athlete or the longer the stride length

in general the more of an aid if react well to his ped

and most in 400 final fit this bracket ,

even look for these type of athletes to dope

the south african was simply doped better

noone finishes last 100m like that without some serious

endurance ped

see many more taller sprinters now with this stuff

where the ideal used to be 5' 10'' during steroid era

why because there was a balance and the taller the athlete

the less stride frequency but with this , increase it

upping the nervous sysem beyond natural especially for taller athlete

look at rio 400 semi's to qualify from it , needed sub 44.50

compared to olympics at london or athens ,

which unheard of , and showing all on this peptide and at chronic levels

undeniable

Karma Police wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

Interesting.

All aduck2002 talks about is IGF-1 LR3.

Everyone is on it apparently. I assume there is no test, or some would have been busted. Or else they microdose it.

They do test for it. It is difficult to catch, like many drugs, but they do test for it. Needs to be a blood test but that is done pretty often these days.

Victor Conte once said something about it being undetectable and I think aduck latched onto it.

Mope Dealer wrote:

aduck2002 wrote:

the taller or longer legged are the more of an enhancement

with IGF-1 LR3 .

Interesting.

It's not interesting it's bullshit.

Not a single tiny piece of explanation or evidence has ever come from aduck to support any of his statements.

He is a super-troll.