Uniyun wrote:
jorvack wrote:She trained with the Oregon guys in the 90s, her easy runs were indeed very fast.
She wasn't 50 years old then.
Same as those guys are. How many of those guys are running or really training these days?
Uniyun wrote:
jorvack wrote:She trained with the Oregon guys in the 90s, her easy runs were indeed very fast.
She wasn't 50 years old then.
Same as those guys are. How many of those guys are running or really training these days?
But they are wrote:
Uniyun wrote:She wasn't 50 years old then.
Same as those guys are. How many of those guys are running or really training these days?
I guess you are proving my point.
Uniyun, if your fragile manhood is threatened by the thought of a 50 year old woman running 7 minute pace, we fully understand, but you might want ot back up your assertion with some facts, because I have run with a couple of elite athlete women who had no trouble handling sub-7 minute pace. In fact, two weeks ago I did a long weekend run with a 51 year old woman who qualified for a couple of marathon O-trials, but who I would call sub-elite. We ran 6:34 pace for the long tempo effort.
rojo wrote:
She loves the feeling she gets from pushing it on an ElliptiGO:
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/mary-decker-slaney-runs-again-50805?Before discovering the device in 2012, she could only jog whicih she hated.
WTF happened to her left calf? It's gone!
jjjjjj wrote:
And the film proves that she was tripped by Zola Budd, who stuck her left leg right in front of Slaney before trying to pass.
Same as this guy. No right calf.
https://cbs1037litefm.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/150172812.jpg
Not buying it. That calf of hers looks awfully scrawny.
James Joyce of the message boa wrote:
Uniyun, if your fragile manhood is threatened by the thought of a 50 year old woman running 7 minute pace, we fully understand, but you might want ot back up your assertion with some facts, because I have run with a couple of elite athlete women who had no trouble handling sub-7 minute pace. In fact, two weeks ago I did a long weekend run with a 51 year old woman who qualified for a couple of marathon O-trials, but who I would call sub-elite. We ran 6:34 pace for the long tempo effort.
Another idiot chimes in. I never said a 50 year old woman couldn't run 7 minute pace. It is a challenging training pace for a 50 year old woman, meaning it takes some effort. Hell, I trained a lot at 7 minute pace, but I was racing faster than any woman ever has.
jjjjjj wrote:
7 is on the low side of that range but you're saying that a great runner at 50 would have difficulty with that pace? Like Joan Benoit Samuelson did? She was running marathons at much faster than 7 minute pace in her 50s.
She ran 2:47 at age 53 after two other sub 2:50s in her 50s. And she still ran 2:51 at 54. (3:04=7 minute pace). When Mary Slaney was at her best, she front-ran dominating victories against the world's best, and therefore could have run significantly faster with pacers. And the film proves that she was tripped by Zola Budd, who stuck her left leg right in front of Slaney before trying to pass.
Zola did not trip Mary. I know. I know who tripped Joan in the race too.
DA.
James Joyce of the message boa wrote:
Uniyun, if your fragile manhood is threatened by the thought of a 50 year old woman running 7 minute pace, we fully understand, but you might want ot back up your assertion with some facts, because I have run with a couple of elite athlete women who had no trouble handling sub-7 minute pace. In fact, two weeks ago I did a long weekend run with a 51 year old woman who qualified for a couple of marathon O-trials, but who I would call sub-elite. We ran 6:34 pace for the long tempo effort.
This ^
The author of Ulysses slices and dices Onion (Uniyun).
biased sample wrote:
James Joyce of the message boa wrote:Uniyun, if your fragile manhood is threatened by the thought of a 50 year old woman running 7 minute pace, we fully understand, but you might want ot back up your assertion with some facts, because I have run with a couple of elite athlete women who had no trouble handling sub-7 minute pace. In fact, two weeks ago I did a long weekend run with a 51 year old woman who qualified for a couple of marathon O-trials, but who I would call sub-elite. We ran 6:34 pace for the long tempo effort.
This ^
The author of Ulysses slices and dices Onion (Uniyun).
Moron #2: Nobody said Slaney couldn't run 7 minute pace at age 50. It would not be an easy slow jog was the point.
running with the dogs wrote:
Great to see her back getting out to work out hard and enjoying it.
Question on this part,
“My high-mileage weeks were 70 to 80 miles, but I couldn’t do a lot of those because if I did do them then I would be hurt the following week. So when I performed at my best on the track in the middle-distances I was training right around 50 to 60 miles a week.â€
Emphasising quality over quantity, she adds that most of her own training miles were at a brisk pace. “I rarely ran slower than six-minute pace so it was always good quality training.â€
Would that 50-60 mpw at not slower than 6:00 pace been even too much at a fast pace for training?
No
The 90s when she was well into her 30s and linked to Salazar showing high testosterone levels which resulted in her getting suspended and stripped of a world medal. I'm shocked she was able to train hard and fast and not need much recovery.
Sally S wrote:
The 90s when she was well into her 30s and linked to Salazar showing high testosterone levels which resulted in her getting suspended and stripped of a world medal. I'm shocked she was able to train hard and fast and not need much recovery.
Then you should be super shocked at the "train hard and fast and not need much recovery" that NOP does to this day.
Uniyun wrote:
biased sample wrote:This ^
The author of Ulysses slices and dices Onion (Uniyun).
Moron #2: Nobody said Slaney couldn't run 7 minute pace at age 50. It would not be an easy slow jog was the point.
Slaney is probably the most talented american woman ever. If she didn't put on weight, I wouldn't be surprised that she could run 7 minute pace without much effort at 50.
Saw her last year on the elliptigo at the Death Ride.
http://www.sierrasun.com/news/sports/17248987-113/death-ride-doesnt-live-up-to-name
Hayduke wrote:
I am inspired to get this checked out on myself. Never ever in the same ballpark as a decker slaney but all her symptoms of arthritis are almost like I lived her life. . . Even down to the constant sinusitis!
Great.
Are you also a Doper-Cheater-Liar who had a testosterone/epitestosterone ratio that was above a 6:1 ratio in 1996... that led to a doping ban…when you were coached by Alberto "Androgel" Salazar?
That is an interesting coincidence.
She should be a great role model for you.
Ha Ha Ha
I think her husband was a shot putter.
What a surprise!!!
No. He was a BRITISH discus thrower.
In this interview…Mary remembers things in a different way now.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/263737-134485-slaneys-still-angry-about-doping-allegations
Mary says she does not know what the phrase "PEDs" means.
Mary says she does not know what a masking agent is.
Richard Slaney says that "We do not know anything about anything anymore."
That is not surprising to me at all.
fred.
Do you think there is something wrong with the memory of Ms. Mary Decker Slaney?
In 1996, at the age of 37, as she qualified for the 5000 meters at the Atlanta Olympics, Decker became involved in controversy. A urine test taken in June at the Olympic Trials showed a testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E) ratio greater than the allowable maximum of six to one.[12] At the time of the positive test Decker was being coached by Alberto Salazar.[13]
Decker and her lawyers contended that the T/E ratio test is unreliable for women, especially women in their late 30s or older who are taking birth control pills. In the meantime, Decker was eliminated in the heats at the Olympics.[4]
In June 1997, the IAAF banned Decker from competition. In September 1999, a USATF panel reinstated her.[14][15] The IAAF cleared her to compete but took the case to arbitration. In April, 1999, the arbitration panel ruled against her, after which the IAAF – through a retroactive ban, even though she was cleared to compete – stripped her of a silver medal she had won in the 1500 meters at the 1997 World Indoor Championships.[16][17]
In April 1999, Decker filed suit against both the IAAF and the U.S. Olympic Committee which administered the test, arguing that the test is flawed and cannot distinguish between androgens caused by the use of banned substances and androgens resulting from the use of birth control pills.[18] The court ruled that it had no jurisdiction, a decision that was upheld on appeal.[19]
The (T/E) ratio test has seen its standards tightened to a 4:1 ratio, instead of the previous 6:1 ratio, and laboratories now also run a carbon isotope ratio test (CIR) if the ratio is unusually high.[20]
Mary Decker Slaney is our US golden girl…and role model to our poster with arthritis.
She is very pure and innocent. Mary is just a victim... of stupid doping tests.
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