Laura MF Muir 3:55

fred.

Kim just didn't have a good race in Rio. She did get a good tan while she was there. You remember that her shoe came off in the 10K at the US Olympic trials…which was really bad luck…which was also similar to the luck of US SUPERHERO Abbey D'Agostino at the Olympics.

As Kim ran by on Saturday…I yelled at her…"I hope you can keep your shoe on during the marathon. If you can't…at least there will be more time to put it back on."

Kim raised her hand and either... gave me a thumbs up…or…gave me the middle finger. I am not sure which one it was. (Kim Conley was also born in BRITAIN. She runs on the wrong side of the trail about 30% of the time.)

Here is a fun anabolic steroid article which will help you get bored and fall asleep:

It has a great section on THG (tetrahydrogestrinone) at BALCO, made by Patrick Arnold…NOT Victor Conte!!!

I agree with you. Everyone has their own subjective and arbitrary criteria for what is "too fast" or "too much improvement."

I think Jenny Simpson is clean. She runs the 800m around 2:00 and I think she could improve her PR from 3:57 to 3:55…which is what Laura Muir just did. Shannon Rowbury also has an 800m PR around 2:00 and has run 3:56. Faith Kipyegon and Sifan Hassan have run 3:56. Laura Muir ran 1 second faster. Why is that crazy? I don't think it is "too fast" or "too much improvement" at this point. There is nothing else that is suspicious about Laura Muir at this point.

Genzebe Dibaba and Qu Yunxia are the women who have run 3:50. That is 5 seconds faster than Laura Muir.

Laura Muir may have just run the clean world record for the women's 1500m. Laura Muir is a very talented and very exciting runner.

Laura dared the other runners to try to catch her.

Nobody could do it.

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

Dopestan

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Andorra/Barcelona,+Spain/@41.9602946,1.1447639,9z/data=

!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x12a5f52e989ef095:0x7c93ed778ea7f92!2m2!1d1.521801!2d42.506285!1m5!1m1!1s0x12a49816718e30e5:0x44b0fb3d4f47660a!2m2!1d2.1734035!2d41.3850639!3e0

fred wrote:

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

I am very confused as to why people think athletes would need to visit certain coaches to gain access to PEDs.

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

fred wrote:

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

USA had a great meet at the Olympics after finishing third at the World Champs only last year. Americans are from the same place as Biogenesis, Balco, Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong. The M4x100m had served four bans between them.

They should rename this country United Enhanced-States of America.

Metric Miler wrote:

fred wrote:

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

I am very confused as to why people think athletes would need to visit certain coaches to gain access to PEDs.

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Well, Barry Fudge isn't really a coach.

fred wrote:

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

couple of points here. Firstly, Laura Muir (amongst others) has been going to Font Romeu to train several times a year for many years now. Secondly, if you think she had a breakout time at the Olympics then you weren't watching very closely

fred wrote:

RJM

Laura and Butchard, Scots, had breakouts timed for the Olympics after going to Font Romeu near Andorra and Spain where the doped cyclists, doping doctors, Jama and other suspected doped athletes hang out.

A 2 hour drive in various directions is in dopersville . The dopers Hall of Fame Fuentes blood bags are close by. Lance and the doping allstars did their best work there.

They should rename this area Dopestan.

They should rename this site Bolloxtan.

fred wrote:

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I'm not sure if you ever ran for a club or university, but if one of your teammates happened to be doping, how would you know? Taking a pill or an injection into his stomach fat in the privacy of his bathroom in the evenings.

Unless you share a bed, how would you know what one might be up to?

not for disitances of 800 or above

is this a joke ???

woud the same time for 1500 be expected if track temperature was 70F or 120F ???

have you heard of hyperthermia ???

& lot of the fields ran nowhere close to PBs

majority were

is this a joke ???

a 1500 at 70F expected to be same as one run at 120F ???

is this a joke ???

why do you think air-con is fixed at ~ 70F ???

that's because it is considered optimal "working temperature"

you clearly have little idea of the history of the sport nor been watching races as grown-up since early '70s

easy to quantify for wind

a 2m/s wind in a 400 & above wrecks races, probably by 1/2s for 400 & 1s for 800

as for temperature, from having an idea of runner's shape, i'd estimate a 100F track-side temperature woud slow :

800 - by about 1/2s

1500 - by ~ 1+s

nonsense is your belief that 100 trackside temperature woud not have slowed her time compared to run at 70F

the heat cost her at least 1s & probably more as she isn't using to running in this heat day-in-day-out even if she attends warm-weather camps for few weeks in a year

rjm33 wrote:

Laura Muir could have just run the clean world record for the women's 1500m. Laura Muir is a very talented and very exciting runner.

She could have if she was clean, which she isn't. Laura Muir and all the other brits are doping cheaters.

is this a joke ???

you have been told numerous times that 48.1tt for cram is utter nonsense

likely he ran it either in very early season when showing ~ 1'46 or later in season during a brutal work-out so no rest at all for it

the cram who ran 1'42.8 with huge amount extra on bends & in tactical race was probably in 46-low/mid / 1'41-mid shape

here is contemporary evidence that 48.1 speed for cram at peak of '85 season is utter total nonsense :

that 400 coudn't have been flat-out as he had to save some energy for later 300, 200 & 150 which were runs of similar or even better calibre - 150m in 16s !!!

it coud be argued that 'Ruto's 1-off 400 couda been into the 46s

please explain to world that if 'Ruto has 47 or possibly even 46+ speed, how on earth cram "only" had 48.1 speed at peak of '85 ???

i trust we will never here this nonsense ever again of cram having only 48.1 speed in his 1'42 or 3'46...

Post the quote from Cram or from a specific workout on the net.

Cram

Personal best 400 meters - 49.1

His coach said that he didn't have any speed. The focus of training was endurance and speed endurance.

now try & think

claims of cram who ran 1'42.8 with huge extra distance off pedestrian 400 in a tactical race for him to just beat cruz, to have only 48.1 speed at the time is utter nonsense

cram was in 1'41-mid shape that day for route-1 off 49-high & you think 48.1 speed for him that day is likely ???

have you read the iaaf article above on a 3kSC guy with 47+ speed at start of a workout ???

how on earth does cram therefore only have 48.1 in peak of '85 if a 3kSC guy has 47+ speed ???

laura muir = IGF-1 lr3 + mildronate alpha ...................

how many more records will we see .. especially in womens side

and Who will be the chosen japanese star in track at tokyo 2020

given ioc carte blanche to dope .

calculo wrote:

now try & think

claims of cram who ran 1'42.8 with huge extra distance off pedestrian 400 in a tactical race for him to just beat cruz, to have only 48.1 speed at the time is utter nonsense

cram was in 1'41-mid shape that day for route-1 off 49-high & you think 48.1 speed for him that day is likely ???

have you read the iaaf article above on a 3kSC guy with 47+ speed at start of a workout ???

how on earth does cram therefore only have 48.1 in peak of '85 if a 3kSC guy has 47+ speed ???

I'll take his coach's word that he didn't have any speed.