I had no issues with him until he dropped that 3:28. You don't train for a 5k/10k then dropped one of the fastest 1500m time in history. Even if the track is super fast.
I had no issues with him until he dropped that 3:28. You don't train for a 5k/10k then dropped one of the fastest 1500m time in history. Even if the track is super fast.
So, so accurate. It's not like Mottram was dripping with drugs, yet Mo was way, way behind him as well.
Stop it you Nike troll.
No, nothing to see here.
What I hate is the hypocricy of the British commentators.
They see Ayana crush the field.
Radcliffe says: "I'm not sure I can understand that".
Brendan Foster says: "I'm not sure what to make of that, to be honest".
This is their veiled way of saying they think Ayana is doping.
But what's good for the goose is good for the gander, non?
Mo dominated his events. He didn't break the world record, but would Foster and Radcliffe have doubted a world record from him? I think not.
larkimm wrote:
Why so much ire about a guy who hasn't won world or olympic championship races in either championship record times or with margins greater than 1.0s (apart from 2015 10000m) and who most posters on here deny can be considered great because he can't run the great times of KB or HG?
Rhetorical question?
If not, how about:
- because he is winning virtually all races since five years AND
- because he became a world beater at advanced age, all of sudden after moving to Salazar and Aden, both coaches of drug cheats, both currently under investigation by USADA/IAAF/Interpol;
- because he evaded at least one test and UKAD let him get away with it;
- because he is lying so much.
All of the above is well documented, so I go with rhetorical question/trolling.
cleans wrote:
What I hate is the hypocricy of the British commentators.
They see Ayana crush the field.
Radcliffe says: "I'm not sure I can understand that".
Brendan Foster says: "I'm not sure what to make of that, to be honest".
This is their veiled way of saying they think Ayana is doping.
But what's good for the goose is good for the gander, non?
Mo dominated his events. He didn't break the world record, but would Foster and Radcliffe have doubted a world record from him? I think not.
Of course not old chap! He's British! Tea anyone?
Trackbot! Compare Kenenisa Bekele vs Mohamed Farah
Trackbot! Compare Matthew Tegenkamp vs Mohamed Farah
Trackbot! Compare Craig Mottram vs Mohamed Farah
Trackbot! Compare Bernard Lagat vs Mohamed Farah
Kenny Beke and Teg are both one year older than Farah. Mottram is three years older. All these guys, well with the exception of Bekele now marathoning, stepped off the track because the track favors the youngsters. Truly, the early to mid 20s is the golden zone for the fastest guys. But all these links of Mo struggling in the golden zone are pretty damning IMO. You have to wonder...what do those guys think of Farah's sudden ascension to the greatest winner ever.
I threw in Lagat because while Lagat's age/performance gives Mo an arguement for his own, it doesn't because Bernard Lagat was always in the golden zone. He was incredible in his early 20s, his late 30s, and he was often a world beater. But for all Lagat's talent, he never owned the track like Mo Farah did, suddenly, from 2011 onwards. Foul.
Head-to-head record between Kenenisa Bekele (left) and Mohamed Farah (right):
WY Bydgoszcz 1999-07-16: 3000 m: 8:09.89 (2) VS 8:21.25 (6)
WJ Santiago de Chile 2000-10-21: 5000 m: 13:45.43 (2) VS 14:12.21 (10)
WC Lausanne-La Broye 2003-03-29: Cross Country 4.0 km: 11:01 (1) VS 12:13 (75)
WC Saint-Galmier 2005-03-20: Cross Country 12.0 km: 35:06 (1) VS 37:50 (37)
Norw Union London 2005-07-22: 5000 m: 12:55.55 (1) VS 13:48.46 (16)
WC Fukuoka 2006-04-01: Cross Country 4.0 km: 10:54 (1) VS 11:27 (40)
WC Mombasa 2007-03-24: Cross Country 12.0 km: DNF (0) VS 37:31 (11)
Norw Union Sheffield 2007-07-15: 3000 m: 7:26.69 (1) VS 7:42.83 (6)
Norw Union Birmingham 2008-02-16: Two Miles: 8:04.35 (1) VS 8:20.95 (6)
Aviva Gateshead 2008-08-31: 3000 m: 7:31.94 (1) VS 7:46.39 (5)
Bislett Oslo 2009-07-03: 5000 m: 13:04.87 (1) VS 13:12.28 (11)
WC Berlin 2009-08-23: 5000 m: 13:17.09 (1) VS 13:19.69 (7)
VD Bruxelles 2009-09-04: 5000 m: 12:55.31 (1) VS 13:22.33 (13)
WC Daegu 2011-08-28: 10000 m: DNF (0) VS 27:14.07 (2)
Pre Eugene OR 2012-06-02: 5000 m: 13:01.48 (4) VS 12:56.98 (1)
OG London 2012-08-04: 10000 m: 27:32.44 (4) VS 27:30.42 (1)
Great North South Shields 2013-09-15: Half Marathon: 60:09 (1) VS 60:10 (2)
Kenenisa "MF" Bekele total wins: 13
Mohamed "DEVASTATED" Farah total wins: 4
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Head-to-head record between Craig Mottram (left) and Mohamed Farah (right):
BMC Solihull 2001-06-23: 5000 m: 13:23.94 (1) VS 13:56.31 (12)
Oxford 2004-05-06: One Mile: 3:56.64 (1) VS 4:00.07 (2)
WC Saint-Galmier 2005-03-20: Cross Country 12.0 km: 37:11 (22) VS 37:50 (37)
Norw Union London 2005-07-22: 5000 m: 12:56.13 (2) VS 13:48.46 (16)
Norwich Union Sheffield 2005-08-21: Two Miles: 8:11.27 (1) VS 8:36.73 (8)
Wanganui 2006-02-11: One Mile: 3:53.14 (2) VS 3:58.45 (3)
Telstra Melbourne 2006-03-09: 2000 m: 4:50.76 (1) VS 5:06.34 (4)
CWG Melbourne 2006-03-20: 5000 m: 12:58.19 (2) VS 13:40.53 (9)
WC Fukuoka 2006-04-01: Cross Country 4.0 km: 11:10 (11) VS 11:27 (40)
New York NYÂ 2006-05-20: 10 km: 28:13Â (1) VS 28:37Â (2)
Norw Union Sheffield 2007-07-15: 3000 m: 7:35.00 (2) VS 7:42.83 (6)
Norw Union London 2007-08-03: Two Miles: 8:11.16 (1) VS 8:20.47 (2)
WC Osaka 2007-09-02: 5000 m: 13:56.24 (13) VS 13:47.54 (6)
WAF Stuttgart 2007-09-22: 3000 m: 7:49.89 (4) VS 7:49.89 (3)
WAF Stuttgart 2007-09-23: 5000 m: 13:42.81 (9) VS 13:41.61 (7)
BUPA Newcastle 2007-09-29: 3 km: 8:02 (4) VS 7:57 (1)
WC Valencia 2008-03-09: 3000 m: 7:52.42 (5) VS 7:55.08 (6)
Jordan Stanford CA 2008-05-04: 10000 m: 27:34.48 (1) VS 27:44.54 (5)
Aviva London 2010-08-13: 3000 m: 7:45.87 (8) VS 7:40.75 (2)
Aviva Birmingham 2011-07-10: 5000 m: 13:11.51 (6) VS 13:06.14 (1)
Herc Monaco 2011-07-22: 5000 m: 13:29.56 (15) VS 12:53.11 (1)
WC Istanbul 2012-03-11: 3000 m: 7:48.23 (11) VS 7:41.79 (4)
Pre Eugene OR 2012-06-02: 5000 m: 13:34.00 (14) VS 12:56.98 (1)
Aviva London 2012-07-13: 5000 m: 13:23.85 (7) VS 13:06.04 (1)
Craig "MF" Mottram total wins: 14
Mohamed "DEVASTATED" Farah total wins: 10
Head-to-head record between Bernard Lagat (left) and Mohamed Farah (right):
Pre Eugene OR 2006-05-28: One Mile: 3:51.53 (1) VS 3:58.36 (8)
v3Nat Birmingham 2006-08-20: 3000 m: 7:50.49 (1) VS 7:51.84 (2)
Rieti 2006 Rieti 2006-08-27: 1500 m: 3:29.68 (1) VS 3:38.02 (12)
WC Osaka 2007-09-02: 5000 m: 13:45.87 (1) VS 13:47.54 (6)
WK Zürich 2007-09-07: 3000 m: 7:38.77 (1) VS 7:41.86 (5)
WAF Stuttgart 2008-09-13: 3000 m: 8:02.97 (1) VS 8:05.97 (9)
WC Berlin 2009-08-23: 5000 m: 13:17.33 (2) VS 13:19.69 (7)
Aviva Gateshead 2009-08-31: 3000 m: 7:36.68 (2) VS 7:47.02 (9)
Aviva London 2010-08-13: 3000 m: 7:40.36 (1) VS 7:40.75 (2)
Herc Monaco 2011-07-22: 5000 m: 12:53.60 (2) VS 12:53.11 (1)
WC Daegu 2011-09-04: 5000 m: 13:23.64 (2) VS 13:23.36 (1)
WC Istanbul 2012-03-11: 3000 m: 7:41.44 (1) VS 7:41.79 (4)
OG London 2012-08-11: 5000 m: 13:42.99 (4) VS 13:41.66 (1)
Pre Eugene OR 2013-06-01: 5000 m: 13:07.76 (5) VS 13:05.88 (2)
WC Moskva 2013-08-16: 5000 m: 13:29.24 (6) VS 13:26.98 (1)
Sainsbury's Birmingham 2015-02-21: Two Miles: 8:17.05 (3) VS 8:03.40 (1)
Sainsbury's London 2015-07-24: 3000 m: 7:42.78 (7) VS 7:34.66 (1)
Müller London 2016-07-23: 5000 m: 13:14.96 (3) VS 12:59.29 (1)
OG RÃo de Janeiro 2016-08-20: 5000 m: 13:06.78 (5) VS 13:03.30 (1)
Bernard "MF" Lagat total wins: 10
Mohamed "DEVASTATED" Farah total wins: 9
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Trackbot! Compare Matt Tegenkamp vs Mohamed Farah
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Another time wrote:
John "Decent Hiney" Rutlidge wrote:I'll try a different approach.....Because he has dark skin?
Nope. Try again.
Ok.... Because of his potential Afro, buck teeth, wide nose?
Come on.....work with me here.
Head-to-head record between Matt Tegenkamp (left) and Mohamed Farah (right):
WC Osaka 2007-09-02: 5000 m: 13:46.78 (4) VS 13:47.54 (6)
WK Zürich 2007-09-07: 3000 m: 7:54.44 (8) VS 7:41.86 (5)
VD Bruxelles 2007-09-14: 5000 m: 13:07.41 (11) VS 13:07.00 (10)
Aviva Gateshead 2008-08-31: 3000 m: 7:47.17 (6) VS 7:46.39 (5)
VD Bruxelles 2008-09-05: 5000 m: 13:25.71 (13) VS 13:08.11 (4)
WAF Stuttgart 2008-09-13: 3000 m: 8:03.56 (3) VS 8:05.97 (9)
WC Berlin 2009-08-23: 5000 m: 13:20.23 (8) VS 13:19.69 (7)
VD Bruxelles 2009-09-04: 5000 m: 12:58.56 (7) VS 13:22.33 (13)
Herc Monaco 2011-07-22: 5000 m: 13:14.75 (12) VS 12:53.11 (1)
WC Daegu 2011-08-28: 10000 m: 28:41.62 (10) VS 27:14.07 (2)
Pre Eugene OR 2012-06-02: 5000 m: 13:24.74 (12) VS 12:56.98 (1)
OG London 2012-08-04: 10000 m: 28:18.26 (19) VS 27:30.42 (1)
New York NYÂ 2014-03-16: Half Marathon: 62:04Â (7) VS 61:07Â (2)
Matt "DEVASTATED" Tegenkamp total wins: 3
Mohamed "MF" Farah total wins: 10
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Mo Farah = greatest long distance track racer ever.
4 Golds.
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Look at Bernard Lagat 9-0 until 2011. Thank Allah for Istanbul! Tips the MF scale. All the prayers to Ganesha in the world couldn't help Farah pre-2011.
Wow...had no idea Teg and Mo were so closely matched during the '07-'09. A lot of races they finished one or two places of each other.
So Teg, only a year older than Mo, should have suddenly have become a world beater too. In 2009 Teg's sub 13 and Mo went 13:22. Three years later, Mo ran 12:56 and Teg 13:24. Yeah that makes sense..older = faster.
@ 1:23 - Nine guys left in this front pack. Alright so we've got an interesting guy who's kind of quietly moved in here...Mo Farah, training with Alberto and Galen Rupp. He's looking pretty strong right now, currently running 7th. @ 3:32 Mo Farah has moved up into third place. @ 4:20 Mo Farah moves to the lead. @ 7:10 Mo Farah finds a gear!
This is only part 3. Farah isn't mentioned during the race until the that 1:23 mark of this segment. This was June 3, 2011. Farah had only just flown into Eugene because he had run the London BUPA 10k only a few days earlier on May 30th, a slow 29:15 win. Farah had only signed with Salazar late February of that year as well, so calling him Salazar's athlete was only relevant for 3 months, and much of that was not spent "with" Salazar at that stage. Farah went on to run his 5000m PR 12:53.11 on July 22, 2011, beating all comers at the DL Monaco meet.
Are you surprised to see Mo Farah up there? Not really. That was a lie. He was surprised and the way Mo won Pre was a head scratcher. Watch all the other links showing this runner's performance passport. Those years, those races, those results. Suddenly a guy becomes the world's best at 27 years old. Drugs and lies.
I savored this race fully. Kipchoge outracing Farah over 2 miles indoor 2012. The Kipchoge, feeling his age and the kick of youngsters, moved up to the half and marathon. The older Farah has kept himself on the track, a 33 year old who can now outkick anyone, especially the young bucks.
People will believe what they want to believe about Farah. There is no hard evidence to convict him of any wrong doing - but even the most passionate Farah fan has to accept that there is some very strong circumstantial evidence.
All great athletes care about their reputation, their place in athletics history. Farah has been damaged by his links to Salazar and his missed drugs tests. his reputation is somewhat tarnished whether justifiably or not is a matter of opinion. Hence his reluctance to add any more fuel to the flames of speculation by confirming that he has been reasonably close to Aden in the past; never a coach/athlete relationship but clearly far more than a couple of blokes who might occasionally say "hello" to each other.
Is he being badly advised here? Undoubtedly! Whether it's his own PR adviser or UK Athletics giving him media advice, denying what he has already written in his autobiography is a very stupid strategy that is merely making him look at best silly and at worst sleazy!
Well done OP.
I posted something almost the same before.
Mo will be caught