John Smith coached runner - Youssef Al-Masrahi of Saudi Arabia - busted for EPO. Why do sprinters use EPO?

there is no way EPO works on world class 400m guys, and michael johnson was waaaaaaay to nice to have done PED's

i mean look at his physique, thats not the look of someone who takes PEDs

i agree with spencer wrote:

there is no way EPO works on world class 400m guys, and michael johnson was waaaaaaay to nice to have done PED's

i mean look at his physique, thats not the look of someone who takes PEDs

You mean the Jager, Blankenship and Symmonds look is a dead giveaway I assume?

actual scientist troll wrote:

MOAT wrote:

Every athlete benefits from increased oxygen uptake. It has nothing to do with a certain distance where it becomes a factor.

do they REALLY? I love the pseudoscience tossed around on the boards. forget actually learning any biology or physiology....or heaven forbid actually reading the latest research:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26258623http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26250346http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26793117

took me 5 minutes on pubmed. a glance at the abstracts looks to say O2 delivery is not limiting in high intensity exercise to exhaustion...

You're not a scientist Jon. You do troll them though.

Try running a race while holding your breath. Oxygen is good, no?

Not a surprise. Read "Speed Trap" by Charlie Francis, Ben Johnson's old coach. Smith was one of the original dbol dropping sprinters back in the day. The stories and insights about the E. Germans and especially the even more guilty American sprinters like Smith and Evelyn Ashford etc. actually funny in a lot of ways.

there is no way EPO works on world class 400m guys, and michael johnson was waaaaaaay to nice to have done PED's

i mean look at his physique, thats not the look of someone who takes PEDs

he was clearly on peds.. don't be naive.

NOOOOO NEVER!!!!!! the only person who was more clean than MJ was paula!!!!!

If I remember correctly, Charlie Francis's "Speed Trap" specifically says that it was well know that every Bob Kersee athlete going back to his days at Cal State Northridge was doped. He specifically names Alice Brown and Valerie Brisco Hooks. Smith coached at UCLA along side Kersee. I think HGG and EPO was the combo referred to.

Michael Johnson being able to talk and not be out of breath after a sub 44 400m was a dead give away of PEDs.

Every time I see the data on Rupp, Farah, Mead, Jager, ... it pains me.

no way there is no way MJ was on PEDs, he had a TUE for his strange running for that allowed him to legally take HGH, EPO, winstrol, anavar and thyroid meds, and if THG was around he would have been on that too....but like i said his cocktail was just as clean as paulas!!!!

PED's is how bannister, Ryun, Santee, Virgin, and others did so well.

i agree with spencer wrote:

NOOOOO NEVER!!!!!! the only person who was more clean than MJ was paula!!!!!

The best way to prove your innocence is with a posterboard sign saying "EPO Cheats out"

400 meters is 43% aerobic. That's almost half.

i agree with spencer wrote:

there is no way EPO works on world class 400m guys, and michael johnson was waaaaaaay to nice to have done PED's

i mean look at his physique, thats not the look of someone who takes PEDs

This is the reason I no longer need to watch comedy central.

Theee LOOK wrote:

i agree with spencer wrote:

there is no way EPO works on world class 400m guys, and michael johnson was waaaaaaay to nice to have done PED's

i mean look at his physique, thats not the look of someone who takes PEDs

You mean the Jager, Blankenship and Symmonds look is a dead giveaway I assume?

When I look at Blankenship I just think "man this guy must swim in HGH."

i agree with spencer wrote:

NOOOOO NEVER!!!!!! the only person who was more clean than MJ was paula!!!!!

Imagine if these two created an offspring:

-rippled muscles

-short choppy stride

-arched back

-unfathomable hematocrit levels and

-a wobbly head nod and

-a complete insistence that they're clean but nobody else is!

actual scientist troll wrote:

MOAT wrote:

Every athlete benefits from increased oxygen uptake. It has nothing to do with a certain distance where it becomes a factor.

do they REALLY? I love the pseudoscience tossed around on the boards. forget actually learning any biology or physiology....or heaven forbid actually reading the latest research:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26258623http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26250346http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26793117

took me 5 minutes on pubmed. a glance at the abstracts looks to say O2 delivery is not limiting in high intensity exercise to exhaustion...

It's clear that h2o2 injected straight into the eyeball is the most effective way to increase lactate threshold aerobic metabolic endurance performance.

Meet John Doe wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

NOTE- This is NOT my former wrestling teammate at Oklahoma State who won 2 Olympic Golds and 6 straight Olympic World Championships who is now the Oklahoma State Wrestling coach and who did the Wrestling commentary for the RIO Olympics last week.

Weird 2 people with identical names.

Multiple people are named John Smith. Who would have guessed?

His name was Robert Paulson

Coach, we are talking about 3 different john smiths. It's like that scene in the Thomas Crown Affair where there are 20 people wearing identical suits and hats.

BigTex wrote:

400 meters is 43% aerobic. That's almost half.

Not sure about, thought it was more like 9-13%