Salazar's runners have done real well thus far. Farah gold, Rupp 5th, Rowbury 4th, Centro and Rupp still up.
Salazar's runners have done real well thus far. Farah gold, Rupp 5th, Rowbury 4th, Centro and Rupp still up.
Gwalkerruns wrote:
Salazar's runners have done real well thus far. Farah gold, Rupp 5th, Rowbury 4th, Centro and Rupp still up.
Centro has a solid shot at a medal. Rupp has a 0% chance for gold and roughly the same shot as Trump does for the POTUS (~13% per Nate Silver) to medal at all.
Genzebe's talent seemed to be on par with the rest of the top 1500 women (3:56-57) until 2014 when she dropped that 3:55 indoors. And remember she's still 6 seconds faster than every other woman in the field including Kipyegon. How can you not see that as suspicious? The Russians had a lot more endurance and the ability to run every pace relaxed too and we know how that turned out.
You really spout out some of the most ridiculous stuff for someone who's so knowledgeable. Pretending there isn't a problem and chastising those who are rightfully skeptical only enables doping. Especially when it is from a prominent coach. Wake up man!
Hilarious how wrong you are .
chaserofsteeples wrote:
Le Grande Orange wrote:Trying to figure out Muir's race strategy, or the lack thereof. Dumb, dumb, dumb. As opposed to Simpson, who's a real smart racer.
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Message to all Americans yet to compete in distance/mid-distance: RUN FOR THIRD.
Murphy, Coburn, and Simpson all had similar races in that they hung back and picked off stragglers who moved too hard too early. Berian/Bosse tried to go with Rudisha's move and cratered. Ditto for Muir and Dibaba.
Jager, Centro, Rupp, Wilson/Grace, and Lagat are all in races where they will be best suited in running conservatively and persevering over competitors who tried to chase the win. I don't believe that any of them could realistically contend for the gold, but smart, patient racing will result in a lot more total hardware.
Gwalkerruns wrote:
Salazar's runners have done real well thus far. Farah gold, Rupp 5th, Rowbury 4th, Centro and Rupp still up.
Farah a Salazar athlete? I would be surprised if they talked even on the phone in the past year. Might as well give Aden credit for Makhloufi's silver.
I hand timed Simpson's last 800m and I got about about ~59.9 and ~1:59.2 splits.
Yes! wrote:
I hand timed Simpson's last 800m and I got about about ~59.9 and ~1:59.2 splits.
DOPED TO THE GILLS!!!!
The dirty drug cheat is guilty as heck, which is why she tries to blame others.
titaniumbolt wrote:
Glad to see Rowbury stuck to her guns (shadow Simpson and try to outkick in the last 100). Jenny pulled her through.
I couldn't agree more. Rowbury sticks to Jenny like glue. Jenny is her tow rope for most races these two are in together.
Dibaba wasn't the only one off the juice. Rowbury hasn't run close to her juiced times of last year. She's running the times she's capable without juice before joining Salazar. Her AR is as legit as the woman she took it from - Mary Decker. Both Salazar coached athletes. Also, her coach isn't any cleaner than Dibaba's - both are dirty, and neither record should stand.
rojo wrote:
Just got here wrote:What were simpson and roburry's last 800's?
I just put up the IOC's results which have every 100 on it.
Kipyegon 01:57.3 (15.7+14.7+14.5+13.7+13.9+13.8+14.8+16.1)
Dibaba 01:58.5
Simpson 01:59.0
Rowbury 01:59.3
Look how amazing those spltis are for Kipyegon. She tired up big in the last 200 as she ran a 55.9 from 600 to 200 out.
Simpson's 800 pb is 2:00.45.
This race needs to get people to calm down about the drug talk. Last year, half of the fans are like, "There is no way a clean woman can run an 800 pb in a 1500." Well Jenny Simpson - whom I assume everyone thinks is clean - just did it.
Are you kidding me rojo? How long have you been involved in this sport? Running a PB in the 800 in a slow 1500 race is one thing. Running a PB in a very fast 1500 is quite another. Give me a break - no comparison!
NoMas wrote:
Wtftw wrote:I think it got real back when Simpson said they hadn't gone back and forth in wins over the years (during an interview.)
It's been on for a while.
That was funny. Jenny obviously has thought about it quite a bit. She speaks the truth though. It must eat her up inside that she doesn't have the American record.
It would me if a drug cheat was the one that denied me it, so of course it has to bother her for a couple of reasons. That being the worst.
Why would a drug cheat be so angry about being beaten by another drug cheat. Typical spoiled American mentality.
Awsome info - thanks rjm33.
I DIVE NOT RUN wrote:
Why would a drug cheat be so angry about being beaten by another drug cheat. Typical spoiled American mentality.
Because she's hyped up on Steroids.
Oh yea.
http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1040503/schwazer-banned-for-eight-years-by-iaaf-after-court-of-arbitration-for-sport-reject-appealhttp://www.skysports.com/more-sports/athletics/news/29175/10520464/italian-athletics-coach-claudio-berardelli-charged-over-dopinghttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/italy-beach-volley-player-banned-rio-155921611--oly.html;_ylt=A0SO8zLRCLRXIJIATU1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMWFrNzgwBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDVUkyQzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-
Italy is really on a roll in 2016.
Does Italy know that there are no medals for doping?
Go Italian Dopers!
I don't think Mr. Alex Schwazer (from Italy) was keeping up with new advances in testing for anabolic steroids.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26853157
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27154828
That is unfortunate for Mr. Schwazer.
Alex can come back in the year 2024... to show everyone that he can WIN CLEAN.
I am really looking forward to it.
ha ha ha
Renato Canova wrote:
Who knows athletics, MUST be able to recognize a different level of talent for athletes who, objectively, start with special gifts : Edwin Moses, Carl Lewis, Bob Beamon are examples of the past, Usain Bolt, Almaz Ayana, Ruth Jebet and Faith Kipyegon are examples of the present.
I absolutely love how you casually included Carl Lewis in that list, whose positive doping tests were covered up. This is quite similar to your remark on that special Paula doping thread about the lack of an increase in Hb for the best athletes at altitude.
Tells everyone how you really think about these athletes without officially admitting it.
Oh boy.
casual obsever wrote:
Renato Canova wrote:Who knows athletics, MUST be able to recognize a different level of talent for athletes who, objectively, start with special gifts : Edwin Moses, Carl Lewis, Bob Beamon are examples of the past, Usain Bolt, Almaz Ayana, Ruth Jebet and Faith Kipyegon are examples of the present.
I absolutely love how you casually included Carl Lewis in that list, whose positive doping tests were covered up. This is quite similar to your remark on that special Paula doping thread about the lack of an increase in Hb for the best athletes at altitude.
Tells everyone how you really think about these athletes without officially admitting it.
Oh boy.
Oh boy.
Renato has also stated that he thinks Wang Junxia was clean…and a natural talent.
Renato has also stated that none of the physiology and medicine stuff in this paper will apply to his "special" group of runners...because they have "special" physiology and training. Renato has stated that the use of EPO or other methods of blood doping to increase RBC and hemoglobin levels... will not increase performance in this "special" group of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3874847/Therefore, everything in this paper and everything in all 83 references do not apply to this "special" group of people.
All of it…"does not apply"…as stated by Renato Canova (coach).
Yea. Sure. Whatever.
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Hi Paula!
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I am just relaxing between jumps at the Olympics:
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Roid Rage Jenny wrote:
I DIVE NOT RUN wrote:Why would a drug cheat be so angry about being beaten by another drug cheat. Typical spoiled American mentality.
Because she's hyped up on Steroids.
At the very least, she is on thyroid medication. Had been for years!!! Wouldn't be surprised if COBURN is too. Hypocrite she is. Anyway, Simpson shouldn't be trashing her compatriots, but she does because she puts herself above patriotism.
Agreed wrote:
Roid Rage Jenny wrote:Because she's hyped up on Steroids.
At the very least, she is on thyroid medication. Has been for years!!! Wouldn't be surprised if COBURN is too. Hypocrite she is. Anyway, Simpson shouldn't be trashing her compatriots, but she does because she puts herself above patriotism.
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