Are there really that many "anti-dive" people here?

Let's eliminate diving in baseball next!

The dive was great for the sports, that is called putting your body on the line.

I challenge anyone to dive face first onto a track while running full speed. The result is painful.

You go girl

Er... wrote:

Yes, because her torso crossed the line before Felix's did. It doesn't matter where her "back half" is. Where do you people come from?! Do you really not know the most fundamental rules of track?

Let's Rin Screenshot (1742) wrote:

That photo shows the lower half of Miller behind the back half of Felix.

Only the arms and one-half of Miller's body are at the finish line.

What is she stopped right there as in your photo? The other runners pass her across the line. Is Miller your winner?

The overhead photo shows Felix was at the finish while only Miller's head, arms and upper shoulders were there. Almost all of Miller was behind the finish line.

i chose D2 wrote:

Or is it just one person starting all these threads?

it is a bunch of pansy ass basement dwellers with chests and arms of 8 year old girls who are jealous of the divers' physiques bitching about diving.

falconrunner22 wrote:

The dive did win it for her. This reminds me of the Fosbury flop controversy back in the 70's. Should the dive be allowed? I say yes. But it's a tough call.

While a dive might be okay it is wrong to use the far upper chest as the point of measurement. Maybe the lower chest / rib cage.

Reboot runner wrote:

Pro-diver wrote:

I thought the dive was awesome! I was a little sad that Felix didn't win but I loved the drama of the dive. So much commitment!

And did you see the slo-mo of Miller sliding across the track? Ouch. It makes track more like Nascar, and people love Nascar.

I also thought the dive was awesome! And, I was a little sad that Felix didn't win it.

And, the first thing I thought was, she wanted it the most. Total sacrifice.

Miller said she blacked out at the end. She had no idea she dove. It was a physical and mental collapse.

alanson wrote:

The criteria for victory (torso-only) were constructed under the assumption of two upright human beings, not human beings sprawling across the finish line. It's not hard to dislike this result.

Exactly. If you watched the race guess what the winning time was on the clock? 49.51, Felix's time. It was not Miller's 49.44. The auto-timing device didn't count the prone finish.

I just wouldn't want the job of analyzing where it is a particular participant's torso crossed the line.

So much commitment!

Desperation does not equal commitment.

i chose D2 wrote:

Or is it just one person starting all these threads?

Diving in track is fine. It is a total nonissue

Diving in soccer needs to be banned.

TrackB0t wrote:

Diving in track is fine. It is a total nonissue

Nope. Rules needs to be change to account for sliding across the finish--cheating the rule intended for vertical finishes.

i chose D2 wrote:

Or is it just one person starting all these threads?

It probably is just one or two people starting those threads.

I honestly don't care that the winner dived to win the 400m race. It looked to me like she was far enough ahead that the dive didn't even make a difference. Besides, it was perfectly legal, so no reason to be up in arms about it

It's one IDIOT who doesn't realize that in events 400m below the runners start horizontal, so why shouldn't they finish horizontal? And they start with the foremost part of their torso above their mark, so if they finish the same way they went exactly 400m.

I really don't get this anti-dive trend, replay at will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ER6EUwWkY

Conundrum wrote:

My thoughts on diving:

Diving helps on the longer races where you are running at a slower speed at the end of the race. Diving would never help in a 100 sprint but becomes more helpful the slower runners are moving at the end.

Intentional diving is dangerous and diving is NOT running so it should not be allowed in a running competition.

As far as this particular case (Felix/Miller), I noticed a couple things from looking at the tape, the speed of Millers dive was faster than Felix's run. However, although Felix came from behind, right at the end even before the dive, miller came back and was ahead when she dived.

Falling on the ground and walking isn't running either. But people are still allowed to do it in the middle of a race and win.

Besides, all running is is a series of controlled falls/dives. You are essentially doing that over and over again and catching yourself. The winner here just didn't finish the catching part before she crossed the finish line in first.

Flat faced wrote:

Yes, because you can be the "winner" by having your chest on the line, not crossing the finish, and having the rest of the field pass your corpse.

Wtf? If everyone is running by your corpse, I'm pretty sure the place you get is among the least of your worries.

how to sharpen one's teeth wrote:

I really don't get this anti-dive trend, replay at will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ER6EUwWkY

I really don't get the you can win if only your head crossed the finish line while the vast majority of your body hasn't finished.

That dive to beat Felix was a cheap, disgusting move to beat the much prettier, elegant Felix. Miller was undignified and brutish, flopping and cheating on the floor like that.

That mostly across the line Felix before the flat on her face "winner"