he couldn't handle the rounds...
he couldn't handle the rounds...
Watched the race again and again.
Damn...same issue as Brenda as soon as the pace picked up in the last 250m they both got passed like they were standing still.
Coaching, coaching coaching problem!
hasty pudding wrote:
He's just not that good of a tactical racer. He can only run from the front ala Montana and that obviously was not going to work in the final. But he doesn't have a kickers speed to come from behind.
"Ala Montana"? You're a blithering idiot.
hasty pudding wrote:
He's just not that good of a tactical racer. He can only run from the front ala Montana and that obviously was not going to work in the final. But he doesn't have a kickers speed to come from behind.
"Ala Montana"? You're a blithering idiot.
He sat on Rudisha's shoulder and went for the gold and failed.
Murphy sat back and went for the bronze and got it. The men who went for the gold mostly died leaving the bronze for the boy who went for the bronze.
In 20 years nobody is going to remember who "won" the bronze.
It was his spikes. Had he run in Nike spikes he would have won.
Wowowowowow wrote:
I think the problem with him is that he doesn't know what to do if someone spoils his race plan.
The above poster nailed it. After Kipkater took it out super hard, Berian looked totally lost. He should have closed the gap on the Frenchman to give himself a chance.
Went for the gold? For what, all of 1 or 2 seconds?
Bad Wigins wrote:
He sat on Rudisha's shoulder and went for the gold and failed.
Murphy sat back and went for the bronze and got it. The men who went for the gold mostly died leaving the bronze for the boy who went for the bronze.
In 20 years nobody is going to remember who "won" the bronze.
Also, nobody will remember the guy who ran 1:46 for last...or the guy who bashed on the guy who got a medal.
The Stache wrote:
[quote]majorkey wrote:
Do any of you remember the 90s and early 00s when the US would have no finalists in most distance races? .
Like Rich Kenah and David Krummenacker in the late 90s/early 00s???? Get outta here with that hobby jogger garbage.
He went for the GOLD. He would have been a track immortal forever. That's the whole point of racing - to WIN.
Only Rudisha achieved that today. Don't worry about me, I wasn't even in the race.
he didnt have any race varience leading in. Clayton ran alot of 1500 and 4x4 in the past 6 months. Boris legs were shot.
I think the old bromide is true, that interval trained athletes don't do well through rounds. Not sure exactly what type of training they are doing, but they constantly show videos of interval training, seems they focus pretty heavily on it.
After watching the races again, Murphy ran tactically brilliant races in the semis and the finals. He hugged the rail until things broke down toward the end and ran the shortest distance of any of the competitors in the field except for Rudisha. Berians tactics in the finals were not as sound as the semis (his semi race was great). In the final he spent too much time in lane 2 and covered more distance than anyone else in the field. He's young enough that he can learn from the experience and come back stronger. The US is filled with a lot of fast young talent. It is a good time for US 800 running (having lived through the dark days of American middle distance running).
He lacks the tactical savvy of Murphy for sure. Last year he didn't even make it to the USATF final. This year he did well enough to make the Oly final anyway. Seems a bit like Brazier, talented but a bit flaky day-to-day due to inexperience, lack of confidence.
scorpion_runner wrote:
The beginning pace killed his legs. No one saw that coming. The Kenyans ran everyone out of it before the second lap. Boris likes to lead, and he does not know how to win or come from behind.
I know how to come from behind. And I love it.
Bad Wigins wrote:
He went for the GOLD. He would have been a track immortal forever. That's the whole point of racing - to WIN.
Only Rudisha achieved that today. Don't worry about me, I wasn't even in the race.
Bad Wiggins, did you land a consulting gig for team Bahrain? Both ex-Kenyan women medalists (Ruth Jebet and Eunice Kirwa) shaved their heads bald.
majorkey wrote:
I'm tired of these posts bagging on pros like you have any idea how it's like being a pro. First of all, lack of racing because of the Nike dispute. Then probably felt pressured like everyone else but took it the hardest. Clayton has been racing 800,1500,4x4 so of course he was fitter. Boris made the Olympic final is that not an achievement already?!
I'm tired of these people who have no idea what they're talking about bagging on people who have no idea what they're talking about.
148marathon wrote:
He's a superstar a month or two 2 out from a final, but when it truly counts he goes home DEVASTATED. Seriously, what's the deal?
1. Nike made the right choice to let him go.
1a. If he'd been forced to stay with Nike, he'd probably be facing reductions at the end of the year.
2. Berian made the right choice to go with a no-reductions NB contract.
3. Maybe Carlos Handler is not the best coach in the world. Two athletes to the games, two DFLs.
Remember, this is the guy who couldn't make the finals at USA nationals a year ago. Clearly, while he's improved, running rounds takes a lot out of him. It could also be a recovery issue with Big Bear in general as Brenda was last in her semi.
Brenda Martinez did just fine considering the 1500 isn't her best event. Her shot at an Olympic medal got knocked flat on the track at Hayward during the 800 trials.