Felix was not willing to dive and fall on her face for gold, she deserves silver.
Felix was not willing to dive and fall on her face for gold, she deserves silver.
http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/does-diving-for-the-finish-line-workkvothe wrote:
Felix should learn to dive. In a sprint, a dive across the line offers over a tenth second advantage.
Golfer in the Oly wrote:
Waaaaaaaaah, stop your crying.
Olympics is about giving it your all. The winner wanted it more and she deserves the gold.
If an American dove to win you would all be cheering
Waaaaaaaaah, stop your crying. AGREE. IT WASN'T A CHEAP MOVE, IT WAS FAIR, IT WASN'T UNETHICAL, IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE
Olympics is about giving it your all. YES, SURE The winner wanted it more DISAGREE, JUST B/C YOU WIN, OR JUST BECAUSE YOU DIVE DOESNT MEAN YOU WANTED IT MORE and she deserves the gold. YES
If an American dove to win you would all be cheering YES, THOSE "CRYING" PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT REACTION
Also, this may have been a dive, or it was a fall, either way, not unusual and perfectly fair. Sprinters often turn their head to one side and lean forward slightly right at the finish line. This gets the all important torso across the official finish line slightly faster. BUT, often a sprinter leans too early, or too far forward and then they end up loosing their balance and fall/dive forward. Sometimes its the anticipation and "pressure" of a runner right next to them that cause the exaggerated lean, as if it creates a desperation to get to that line.
Felix ran all the way through the finish line, and I don't recall too much of a lean. But, Miller was leading and the lean/fall/dive was not the difference. Had she done what Felix did, the outcome would have still been the same, in my estimation. If Felix did what Miller did, the outcome also still would have been the same. And its possible that Millers fall/dive, since it was a bit early and resulted in a fall/dive, actually cost her a small fraction of time.
swedish track-rules expert Lennart Julin says "line just have to be reached (by torso), not passed.....
artice on the case/matter in swedish
marwar wrote:
swedish track-rules expert...
Dr. Steve Brule?
Sweet Berry Wine!
She made full use of the rules but the rule itself/lack of a rule is garbage. Runners should have to stay on their feet.
Change of Rules!!! wrote:
Here what should change - If you 'dive' at the line and your torso crosses first, Ok, fair enough; You 'Win' - BUT....... if the rest of your body just 'lies' there on the track and doesn't cross the line before the next runner fully does, then you loose that spot! You're not technically "finishing the distance" if your 'whole body' does not cross that line - and that's not fair! You're then going less of a distance technically than that of your competitors, why should you then win? It's BS! I think this rule would discourage "diving"and the hanging across the line scenarios. Felix was fully across, while Miller's body was still just still half way there on the ground! Again, a crap win.
So.... if your leading by 30 seconds in a race, cross the line with your torso first, fall down and can't get fully across the line before you next competitor 'fully' does - then sorry, you don't win, period! If they trip as well and are stuck on the line, then the third person 'wins' if they fully come across first, etc....
Doesn't your entire body have to be behind the start line before the gun? Then to "complete the distance" (i.e run 400m) you break the startline with your torso at 0m then break the finish line the same way at 400m.
I think if Felix leaned, she would have won. It looked like she didn't realize the finish was right there
lauranorder wrote:
Change of Rules!!! wrote:Here what should change - If you 'dive' at the line and your torso crosses first, Ok, fair enough; You 'Win' - BUT....... if the rest of your body just 'lies' there on the track and doesn't cross the line before the next runner fully does, then you loose that spot! You're not technically "finishing the distance" if your 'whole body' does not cross that line - and that's not fair! You're then going less of a distance technically than that of your competitors, why should you then win? It's BS! I think this rule would discourage "diving"and the hanging across the line scenarios. Felix was fully across, while Miller's body was still just still half way there on the ground! Again, a crap win.
So.... if your leading by 30 seconds in a race, cross the line with your torso first, fall down and can't get fully across the line before you next competitor 'fully' does - then sorry, you don't win, period! If they trip as well and are stuck on the line, then the third person 'wins' if they fully come across first, etc....
Doesn't your entire body have to be behind the start line before the gun? Then to "complete the distance" (i.e run 400m) you break the startline with your torso at 0m then break the finish line the same way at 400m.
Doesn't your entire body need to be behind the goal line when starting on offense at the goal line? Then do you need to get the entire football and/or your entire body across the goal line to score a touchdown?
If you look at Michael Johnsons Twitter you will see a tweet where he explains that the dive or fall would not have saved her any time. In all likelihood this "dive" cost her time. Also he doesn't think it's cheep..... So disagree with this race or this rule all you want. But you're disagreeing with the GOAT 400m runner.
I DIVE NOT RUN wrote:
She made full use of the rules but the rule itself/lack of a rule is garbage. Runners should have to stay on their feet.
So Kamworor shoulda been DQed in Cardiff earlier this year in the 1/2m WC? Or Mo in the 10 000m final in Rio?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Des Linden: "The entire sport" has changed since she first started running Boston.
Ryan Eiler, 3rd American man at Boston, almost out of nowhere
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
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