1962. For further evidence of his greatness, and his proudest achievement.
1962. For further evidence of his greatness, and his proudest achievement.
Awesome. He won a 10km XC in 35-minutes.
Lydiard was over-rated.
kljj wrote:
Awesome. He won a 10km XC in 35-minutes.
Lydiard was over-rated.
Look at what they had to contend with. And Pat Sidon was no slouch.
http://hb.knowledgebank.org.nz/967/1405/35478harry wales wrote:
kljj wrote:
Awesome. He won a 10km XC in 35-minutes.
Lydiard was over-rated.
Look at what they had to contend with. And Pat Sidon was no slouch.
http://hb.knowledgebank.org.nz/967/1405/35478
On link you have to tab over to photos of cross country champs.
Very interesting on how Pat Sidon trained:
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"I never considered running the magic 100 miles a week, the most I ever did was around 70 miles" Pat says. "We trained under the same system as the great Czech athlete Emil Zatopek which included long, slow running for strength but plenty of quality repetition work as well. We used to do a lot of speed work with Alex on the Corstorphine ground in the dark, carrying torches to enable us to get round. I often used to do 24 quarter-mile reps alternating between fast and slow. You read a lot about the tremendous mileage young runners are doing now under the "Lydiard System", but I wonder how many of them are following the system accurately" Pat says.[/quote]
HRE wrote:
Evidently he was not too heavy for a distance runner.
He was primarily an 800 meter runner, and nowhere close to being a world class distance runner.
DQ LaRoid wrote:
Look at how thick his calves adn ankles were. Not as big as Hillary's stocky slabs
Good grief.
I had the great fortune to meet him.
I blubbered like a letsrun fanboy
kljj wrote:
Awesome. He won a 10km XC in 35-minutes.
Lydiard was over-rated.
If Bill Billie was in the race??? Then that was pretty impressive, or Halberg, Magee or Julian. John Davies?
Subway Surfers wrote:
kljj wrote:
Awesome. He won a 10km XC in 35-minutes.
Lydiard was over-rated.
Could have been a hilly course? I noticed that twice Rod Dixon won the 12km champs in 40mins and he by all accounts was one of best white cross country runners ever.
crumpet wrote:
I had the great fortune to meet him.
I blubbered like a letsrun fanboy
Did he give you a bite of his vegemite sandwich?
However --- wrote:
HRE wrote:
Evidently he was not too heavy for a distance runner.
He was primarily an 800 meter runner, and nowhere close to being a world class distance runner.
Maybe not world class, but certainly national class. And think of all the hobbyjoggers NZ was producing in the early 1960's.
At Napier in 1962 Peter Snell was dragging his 48 second quarter mile frame over hill & dale & mud & fences too high to hurdle for six plus miles.
That was NZ cross country back then.
Supposedly he finished 4th in 1959 NZ senior cross country, as well.
PS. Peter is on here lurking I can assure you.......or someone has texted him.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Could have been a hilly course? I noticed that twice Rod Dixon won the 12km champs in 40mins and he by all accounts was one of best white cross country runners ever.
Also, if it was a muddy course it would slow him down. Mud+ hilly AF course = results in a slow time. I don't know how many times it has to be said, but time doesn't matter in XC, place does.
Daniel Rosa wrote:
Peter Snell was a disgrace and an insult to his fellow athletes to show his stocky legs in full view of millions of viewers around the world.
It should only be possible to win Olympic Gold with Kipchoge calves, as most LetsRunners agree. Snell should have been made to cover his legs and the fact that he didn't means he should now retrospeculately be diqualificated.
Please follow me on Instagram, I want more followers than Patrick Cutter.
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You could pay me and I wouldn't follow you. Arrogance is very unhealthy and bad personality trait to have. Don't you feel like a slime coming on here and asking for people to do that?
Ha ha ha haaa wrote:
DQ LaRoid wrote:
Look at how thick his calves adn ankles were. Not as big as Hillary's stocky slabs
Good grief.
Yes, let’s be civil. Oh wait ...
Snell was actually 6-foot-5, and he ate punks like you for breakfast.
Doesn't look it wrote:
I'm taller and more muscular and fatter and I weigh 175-180, so I'd agree with the 165 range (for that picture at least).
But who's the German (#35)?
He looks much bigger and more in line with the 180 range.
Could be wrong, but I'm thinking #35 is actually a Belgium with the last name of Moen. First name Roger, maybe?
Moen was the the favorite to win the '60 800 meters in the Rome Olympics, but Snell nipped him at the tape.
However --- wrote:
HRE wrote:
Evidently he was not too heavy for a distance runner.
He was primarily an 800 meter runner, and nowhere close to being a world class distance runner.
Middle distance. In addition to his 800 achievements he broke the world mile record twice, as well as being Olympic 1500m at his first time of asking. (I don't think he ran 1500m outside the Olympics, as the imperial distance was more commonly run in those days. So he never attempted the 1500m record). He beat the best of his era over the longer distance, despite coming to it later in his career. But he was not a 1500-5000 exponent like an El G. No one claims he was. But neither was he a Rudisha, Kipketer or Cruz 800m specialist.
There may have been faster middle distance runners, prettier and more stylish runners, even greater runners - perhaps - but I have never seen a more powerful middle distance man. At his peak, his kick was unmatchable for its sustained strength and sheer explosiveness. Of his destruction of the field in the 1500 final at Tokyo the third place getter and his fellow countryman John Davies said, "Peter cared little for tactics; he essentially sent this message to the competition that it doesn't matter what tactics you employ, I will destroy you with my power'." And destroy them he did. His kick from 250m out made the rest of the field look as though they were standing still. The race was over in half a dozen strides. Davies later said that great clumps of cinders were tearing off the track and into his face as Snell powered away from him. It is one of the truly great championship victories, and made even more so by the fact that it was his seventh race in nine days, that included an equally devastating defence of his 800m title. Although he broke further records after Tokyo he was basically running on empty, and he retired shortly after. It was still the amateur era. There is a wonderful story about Rod Dixon, that at the international convention of the Milers of the Century in the '90's, where they showed a clip of Snell at Tokyo, a reporter observed Dixon watching the clip; as Snell exploded into the lead in the final back-straight it brought a tear to Dixon's eyes and he was overheard to say softly to himself, "He was really something, wasn't he ...."
Deano, you can conclude whatever you wish.
We have great respect for Coe. SNELL.. was better. In fact, as Roger Moens said, "Peter Snell was... the best!"
https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/this-is-your-life-peter-snell-2000