Almaz Ayana Responds: “My doping is my training. My doping is Jesus. Otherwise. Nothing. I am crystal clear.”

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  • Real. Deal.God.Now.I.am.mad!.
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 1:23am CDT
    re: Spaghettimonster
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    Spaghettimonster wrote:

    consider this wrote:

    To the atheists who value moral behavior, you know what a great thing about God is? He sees right past all the bull that people say and judges righteously based on the heart as reflected by their actions. No human system will come close to perfect justice. So if you really are moral and care about justice, you should leave that to God.

    It really doesn't matter what Ayana or any of us claim because in the end all will be settled fair and square.

    It won't change that Huddle and Simpson and many other clean athletes will miss out on medals.

    As for your religious silliness:
    Burning people in hell doesn't fix anything. In life, we punish people to teach them a lesson in order to change their behavior for the better. When it comes to God sending people to hell, they don't get to learn and become better, they just suffer FOREVER. This helps nobody, but proves that God is mean spirited, or would be if he was real.

    Also: no Amana does not deserve to burn for eternity if she has doped.

    Sorry, I needed that off my chest.



    You are in really big trouble.

    Oh well.
  • first of many WR
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 1:53am CDT
    re: Real. Deal.God.Now.I.am.mad!.
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    She DESTROYED the world record by 15 seconds by a KNOWN CHINESE DOPER, nothing to see here folks, she is black, move on or forever be called a racist.


    Look for many many more records to fall as slews of black dopers and trannys are allowed to do whatever the H*ll they want.
  • marwar
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 5:53am CDT
    re: Cubism Cubed
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    Damn, training specifically for your olympic event is the key to succes....
  • GJK
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:06am CDT
    re: first of many WR
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    I think Scott Douglas said it well, "tell me your time limitations of what can be considered clean since you have the information and science handy."

    What are the limits? For me, 29:17 by a 14:11 athlete is completely inline. Now, it's when you run a 2:15:25 Marathon and you can barely sub 14:30 and run 30:00 when doping is a major red flag.
  • Buttbot
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:14am CDT
    re: GJK
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    Trackbot! VDOT 2:15:25 Marathon

    GJK wrote:

    I think Scott Douglas said it well, "tell me your time limitations of what can be considered clean since you have the information and science handy."

    What are the limits? For me, 29:17 by a 14:11 athlete is completely inline. Now, it's when you run a 2:15:25 Marathon and you can barely sub 14:30 and run 30:00 when doping is a major red flag.
  • BigDuh
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:14am CDT
    re: laughing
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    laughing wrote:

    BigDuh wrote:

    Nobody cares about an Ethiopian distance runner. If you think what the world is waiting for is (yet another) a really good Eastern African runner you are clueless.

    I didn't say that. I said that they need amazing, dominant performances. This was an amazing, dominant performance. It's true, charisma and English-speaking ability are also necessary to turn an athlete into a real star, but the performances have to be there. An athlete winning by a few tenths or hundredths of a second is NOT going to rope in new fans for T&F, because people outside the sport have no perspective with which to compare small margins of victory.

    I also challenge the assertion that "Nobody cares about an Ethiopian distance runner." Tell that to Haile. Tell Haile that to his face. I dare you.

    Nobody knows who he is. A few people on a running message board do, but no HS kid is wishing he is Halie G. sorry to bust your bubble. Go to a road race and ask 10 runners who the most dominant male distance runner is and most will say "some Kenyan?".
  • TrackBot
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:18am CDT
    re: Buttbot
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    VDOT for 2:15:25 42.195km: 74.7
    Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

    Marathon: 02:15:19
    Half marathon: 01:04:35
    15K: 00:44:56
    10K: 00:29:19
    5K: 00:14:06
    3Mi: 00:13:35
    2Mi: 00:08:45
    3200m: 00:08:42
    3K: 00:08:06
    1Mi: 00:04:05
    1600m: 00:04:04
    1500m: 00:03:47


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  • ilmango
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:30am CDT
    re: LetsRun.com
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    don't you get it? She's a dumb god-believing hick, that doesn't question her coach when given her "vitamins"
  • mesfin
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:40am CDT
    re: BigDuh
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    every body do not forget that ethiopia is the land of majestic athletes from abebe bikila to miruts yifter. the greatest of all haile, the untouchable kenenisa. the amousing mamo wolde. the always smileing derartu tulu. the baby face destroyer tirunesh dibaba. the ruthless meseret defar and on and on. now here she come the 'wildebeest' alemaz ayana. do expect world record at 5k in rio. evry body beat it !!!!!!
  • aduck2022
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 6:51am CDT
    re: mesfin
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    no ,the older athletes love


    IGF-1 LR3 .......................................rearrange have L3RD or lord .
  • botty shelley
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 7:00am CDT
    re: aduck2022
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    Trackbot! McMillan Running Calculator 2:15:25 marathon
  • kmaclam
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 8:27am CDT
    re: Savior of running
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    Savior of running wrote:

    Pardon my French, but that is a bada$$ response.

    Ayana is the savior of women's distance running.

    Damn straight! What an awesome response. I was thinking 50/50 chance she's dirty, but now am leaning 80% clean. Naive? Maybe. But perception is reality at work here & her response changed my perception.
  • Dope Fiend1
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 8:35am CDT
    re: kmaclam
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    Trackbot! compare steve prefontaine and almaz ayana
  • TrackBot
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 8:38am CDT
    re: Dope Fiend1
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    Athletes must be of the same gender to do a head-to-head matchup

    I am a bot. Info: http://habs.sdf.org/trackbot
  • pert
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 8:44am CDT
    re: TrackBot
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    I appreciate Ayana's response and testimony of her faith. Sadly so many people are blinded to the reality that they were indeed created by God, and he deserves praise!
  • trollism
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 8:49am CDT
    re: kmaclam
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    kmaclam wrote:

    Savior of running wrote:

    Pardon my French, but that is a bada$$ response.

    Ayana is the savior of women's distance running.

    Damn straight! What an awesome response. I was thinking 50/50 chance she's dirty, but now am leaning 80% clean. Naive? Maybe. But perception is reality at work here & her response changed my perception.


    Her jibbering about fairy tales made you change your mind?
  • Dafuq
    4 years ago 08/13/2016 9:26am CDT
    re: Sports Fan
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    "Kenyans winning the hurdles in amazing times and even the javelin"
    How many Kenyans have won those events this year? I didn't know Kenyans wernt allowed to do shorter distances either? And I'm surprised it's taken so long for a Kenyan to be in the jav that's the way a lot of them hunt lol
  • BigTex
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 11:36am CDT
    re: TrackBot
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    Trackbot! Gender is no longer relevant.
  • KudzuRunner
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 11:37am CDT
    re: Molly Huddle-GOAT
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    Molly Huddle-GOAT wrote:

    Five years ago, everyone said Ethiopians were genetically superior. Now everyone says every Ethiopian is a doper.

    I guess it must be that Americans are genetically superior, so anyone who runs faster than them is cheating.

    I guess if Molly Huddle had grown up poor in East Africa, running on dirt at altitude, with the example of many Olympic champions before her, she would have run exactly the same time she did today.

    I guess Molly Huddle has reached the absolute pinnacle of human performance. No woman ever will be able to run faster than what she did today without doping. I also hope that someone gets her to a doctor, she must be near her deathbed given that no human being ever has run this sort of effort before and never will again.

    All hail Molly Huddle.

    This takes the cake as silliest POD. But you're not the only poster who is (intentionally) missing the point.

    The current state of elite running is such that ANY performance that falls far outside expected norms is automatically suspect. I don't blame anybody who questions Ayana's performance. (I certainly won't blame Vivian Cheriot if she chooses to question it.) It was unworldly. Nor to I blame anybody who questions Katie Ledecky's recent performances--in the 800 freestyle, for example. Both performances are equivalent, in some sense: freaky, crazy, admirable--but they also force us to ask, these days, whether we're watching drugs at work.

    The next stage, after manifesting reasonable suspicion, is to behave like an adult. That means actually assembling the evidence. Does the athlete have ANY precedent for such performances? Do they, for example, have a known, or discoverable, association with known dopers, known coaches who dope athletes?

    Nobody I know says that every Ethiopian runner is a doper. But some of them are.

    Nobody I know says that every (white) American cyclist is a doper. But we, ah, had a little problem there.

    It's not an either/or thing, ever. We've been through this already with the genetics vs. culture thing in discussions of East African runners. Some of us have figured out that when you put genetics and culture together, great things happen.

    It's not racist to question whether specific outlier performances were made possible by PEDs. In this particular case, the existing record was dirty. So of course the runner who breaks it, in a wild outlier performance, is going to take some heat.

    The stuff about Molly Huddle is a wonderful example of reductio ad absurdum--which is to say, it's absurd. Nobody is making that sort of claim about Molly Huddle. Great race for her, BTW. She wasn't going to beat Ayana--even without the drugs; only joking--but Ayana's crazy performance clearly helped drag her along to the AR. Nice.
  • BellLapBallBuster
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    4 years ago 08/13/2016 1:31pm CDT
    re: fnu
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    And you probably believe that the entire universe was spontaneously created out of nothing...

    So you must be doping.
 
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