A little too long for me to wade through. Did he happen to mention if he had any thoughts on the Kennedy assassination?
A little too long for me to wade through. Did he happen to mention if he had any thoughts on the Kennedy assassination?
Hackneyed Al wrote:
But isn't this all stuff from a decade or more ago, and more or less known already? What's new really?
This is true. It's nothing new.
Still interesting how he cannot keep a lid on it so close to the Big Show.
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
A little too long for me to wade through. Did he happen to mention if he had any thoughts on the Kennedy assassination?
Seriously? It was too much for you to read for 2 minutes?
A generation of now wrote:
Bring Back the 880 wrote:A little too long for me to wade through. Did he happen to mention if he had any thoughts on the Kennedy assassination?
Seriously? It was too much for you to read for 2 minutes?
I skinned it. Not going to give too much credence to bitter old cheaters.
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
A generation of now wrote:Seriously? It was too much for you to read for 2 minutes?
I skinned it. Not going to give too much credence to bitter old cheaters.
These are exactly who you should give credence to. Not the people selling you a fantasy
This is why PEDs should be legal. Have real medical professionals helping athletes. Not a coach injecting you with unknown stuff.
Good for him. I want to hear more.
People accusing him of getting revenge/personal versus doing it for the good of sport. Of course it's partly personal; if it was about sport the USOC/USADA should have fully investigated Greene, Mitchell, etc. They made it personal.
I just wish these guys will admit it sometime before they pass away. Everyone 1984, 1988 Olympics all the way to 2004.
Assuming allegations are true, I wouldn't be surprised if they were, I think Trevor Graham is simply angry.
Stepanova cheated and so did many other Russians. She got caught. Stepanova 'blew the whitsle.' Many other Russians were implicated. Stepanova labelled as a traitor, life turned upsidedown (knowing a huge sacrifice was required), not allowed in Olympics, and no blanket ban on Russian team. IOC fu*ked up.
Graham was dirty and (if true) so were many American sprinters. Trevor Graham provided syrringe with 'the clear.' Some sprinters eventually got caught and he's now banned for life. Other's named continue to deny and authorities did not do enough.
Similar situations.
1. Whistleblowers (guilty as well) got treated worse by those there to protect them. IOC, WADA, USOC, USADA
2. Those authorities did not do enough to punish those implicated by whistleblowing or invesigate fully allegations (WADA independent person still investigating hopefully Sochi and Russia)
Don't think the whistle-blowers are heroes but I don't think they got enough credit and respect from authorities
IMO these are his motives for speaking out
sfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
But I really don't know what new info he thinks he has.
That's right, you don't. Hopefully he'll keep revealing so it can be investigated.
"What Trevor says about Memo & Maurice Greene is true. USADA & IAAF had credible doping evidence & both failed 2 act"
Blood dEPOr wrote:
Bring Back the 880 wrote:I skinned it. Not going to give too much credence to bitter old cheaters.
These are exactly who you should give credence to. Not the people selling you a fantasy
He's lying. Though he won't publicly say it, Gatlin admitted his culpability to investigators.
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Hackneyed Al wrote:But isn't this all stuff from a decade or more ago, and more or less known already? What's new really?
This is true. It's nothing new.
Still interesting how he cannot keep a lid on it so close to the Big Show.
This very old. I wrote a paper in Grad school on it in 2005/2006. I got contacted by the guys at SF Chronicle and the WSJ. I'm not as big into it as the guys on vice sports. I have since moved on and have a great career in a completely different industry. Again there is a new designer drug amphetamine/CNS type and someone will spill it a little after the Olys, just like Trevor did when he got burned and fired right before 2000 by Marion and turned in the needle which led to the whole BALCO.
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
A little too long for me to wade through. Did he happen to mention if he had any thoughts on the Kennedy assassination?
It was obviously too much for your brain to handle.
Oh well. That is typical for this forum.
Did you go to the Ivy League like rojo?
That could explain it.
Olympic Truth wrote:
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:This is true. It's nothing new.
Still interesting how he cannot keep a lid on it so close to the Big Show.
This very old. I wrote a paper in Grad school on it in 2005/2006. I got contacted by the guys at SF Chronicle and the WSJ. I'm not as big into it as the guys on vice sports. I have since moved on and have a great career in a completely different industry. Again there is a new designer drug amphetamine/CNS type and someone will spill it a little after the Olys, just like Trevor did when he got burned and fired right before 2000 by Marion and turned in the needle which led to the whole BALCO.
More details please.
Victor Alexander wrote:
It was interesting untill the "Justin Gatlin is innocent" at the end. Kinda ruined the whole thing.
Really
Everyone is doping except for the Oympic champion that he coached.
Ah yes, the infamous Angel Heredia, AKA Angel Hernandez, AKA "Memo"
He used to be a close friend to quite a few distance runners from San Antonio, TX. In fact I was talking track and field with a guy at the gym a few weeks ago and this guy used to throw at Texas A&M, Kingsville, said he was approached by a coach there who wanted to help him get "better" by taking PEDs. I asked, was his name "Memo"? and he just laughed, "yep, everyone seems to know about Memo.
Wow good spotting, if Conte is still involved in doping that would be huge news, though it would not surprise me.
Why hasn't anything been done about Maurice Greene?
The guy went from like 10.2 to 9.8 in his twenties, so dirty.
I bet Mahkloufi is on some of this stuff.
Mope Dealer wrote:
Wow good spotting, if Conte is still involved in doping that would be huge news, though it would not surprise me.
Why hasn't anything been done about Maurice Greene?
The guy went from like 10.2 to 9.8 in his twenties, so dirty.
I bet Mahkloufi is on some of this stuff.
You mean mid 20's. He missed out in 96' and then was superman within a year. Flo Joesque, if you ask me.....
if Conte is still involved in doping that would be huge news, though it would not surprise me.
No, I think TG's diatribe was recalling some 2005-ish deposition to the anti-doping investigators, when Mitchell "had heard" Conte was still in busyness.
Exactly.
Who was Maurice Greene sponsored by again, I forgot........oh that's right Nike!!