Why does letstrun hate NOP

Because it falls in the middle of dOPe.

BTW, Salazar uses the OP as the branded name. NOP is simply the Nike naming used for marketing purposes.

I will tell any athlete any time (elites) they are using drugs. And have. You are pathetic for not doing some research and realizing track while a great sport at the elite level is fooling people like Lance and then coming after this site. This site is just that a site with various opinoins about track. Many people here believe like I do and many don't.

I agreee something shady is going on but they aren't getting an advantage over Africans....I've always said that there are enough people willing to dope that the best of the best will always be dirty because enough so many people slip through the cracks.

But they don't fail tests so imo they are "clean"

Ha ha ha Alberto. I can tell it is you posting here again.

It is fun to make fun of Alberto "Hey, I am just doing some Androgel testing on my family" Salazar.

He has had many stupid ideas. He will continue to have many stupid ideas in the future.

“14 Minutes is an inspirational account of a man who has fought with the Grim Reaper and won. Since he put on his first pair of running shoes, Alberto Salazar has been defying the odds. Through his memoir, people have the privilege to get to know this truly great man and walk away with a renewed appreciation for life.” ―Lance Armstrong, cancer survivor and 7-time Tour de France champion

It is just a coincidence.

Alberto has many stupid ideas

What I always loved about this sport was its simplicity. We used to say all you needed were some shoes and shorts, maybe sweatpants at times of the year, and you could make yourself as good a runner as possible. So I hate all the high tech stuff NOP does, legal or not, and I can't get really excited when any of them do well.

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HRE wrote:

What I always loved about this sport was its simplicity. We used to say all you needed were some shoes and shorts, maybe sweatpants at times of the year, and you could make yourself as good a runner as possible. So I hate all the high tech stuff NOP does, legal or not, and I can't get really excited when any of them do well.

I personally dislike the NOP because I think that morally speaking, they are cheaters. Salazar knows exactly where the line is, and he will go right up to it, and even step on the actual line.

The thing about cheating, not rule-wise, but morally, is that it is an undue advantage. The third world can go and train hard and succeed, but your average Kenyan rising through the ranks to become world-class cannot afford all the doctor visits and tue drugs that the NOP takes full advantage of. It's not a level playing field. Some idiots will say that it isn't a level playing field to begin with, because they were not born at altitude, didn't pick the right parent, etc. Those are factors that can't be managed, and no governing body could ever manage them.

There is comradery that comes with competition, but if people aren't competing on equal terms, that comradery is lost. In a nutshell, that's why a lot of people don't like the NOP, in particular Rupp. I'm not a Rupp hater, but I can at least recognize that people dislike Rupp for reasons other than that he wins all the time, aka jealousy.

They are hated because people on this board are damn lazy, and they need excuse for their laziness.

They just run a few hours (at most) a day, and do nothing else to improve themselves as runners. NOP members are 24/7 professionals who leave no stone unturned. Their take no prisoner attitude toward running makes people here insecure.

HRE wrote:

What I always loved about this sport was its simplicity. We used to say all you needed were some shoes and shorts, maybe sweatpants at times of the year, and you could make yourself as good a runner as possible. So I hate all the high tech stuff NOP does, legal or not, and I can't get really excited when any of them do well.

Yes, down with progress.

Anti-Blue-Collar wrote:

They are hated because people on this board are damn lazy, and they need excuse for their laziness.

They just run a few hours (at most) a day, and do nothing else to improve themselves as runners. NOP members are 24/7 professionals who leave no stone unturned. Their take no prisoner attitude toward running makes people here insecure.

I went to the Olympics. I am not lazy and I can still run pretty fast at 50. NOP and all athletes work hard and have the "take..blahblah" attitude. Which is not true for a large portion on Olympians. The fact that they are in a sport that the athlete has to take to be competitive and then have to lie or omit truth in order to be able to compete is why some people are angry. Not the lazy insecure nonsense you stated.

Not everyone. Can't you see it's pretty much the 1 or 2 persons posting time after time? It's really not hard to see.

Anti-Blue-Collar wrote:

They are hated because people on this board are damn lazy, and they need excuse for their laziness.

They just run a few hours (at most) a day, and do nothing else to improve themselves as runners. NOP members are 24/7 professionals who leave no stone unturned. Their take no prisoner attitude toward running makes people here insecure.

They are hated well beyond this board. Salazar is not a respected coach and other clubs hate on the NOP and distrust Salazar's closed door. One of the reason other camps hate Salazar is the size of his operating budget. Those I've talked to have said it is unlimited. Also, his own coaching progression. There is a reason why universities did not want Alberto Salazar coaching. He was coaching at Galen Rupp's high school. Salazar's brief running career and major health issues have always brought suspicion of his own use of PEDs. His first real coaching gig with Mary Decker showed PED use as she tested positive in 1996.

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The reasons have always been well articulated and I've said before, Galen Rupp would not be hated the way he is if he ran for someone other than Salazar.

I'm not sure that artificially improving performances is progress.

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I don't know about Mo Farah, but there's a huge difference between athletes from the US and athletes from Africa. The US is either the medal leader or in second place at every Olympics, and it's the #1 or #2 economy in the world. How much pride do you think it brings to the average American for a track and field athlete to win another medal? Not too much.

The Africans come from much more meagre circumstances and so they are much more proud of their accomplishments. Ethiopia, for instance, has NEVER won an Olympic medal outside of running. In addition to pride, the civic investments that they bring back to their countries (the Ethiopian business ventures are well known, but even things like running water...) mean they have a lot more on the line than the Americans, and of course it's also a way out of poverty for many of them.

If the NOP guys dope, it's more for their personal glory and maybe so they can afford a bigger house. Screw them.

HRE wrote:

What I always loved about this sport was its simplicity. We used to say all you needed were some shoes and shorts, maybe sweatpants at times of the year, and you could make yourself as good a runner as possible. So I hate all the high tech stuff NOP does, legal or not, and I can't get really excited when any of them do well.

Nice attitude for a hobby jogger who runs for fitness.

Pros should be ASHAMED not to use every resource available to them within the rules.