Jakob Ingebritsen is at 1:51.07; turns 16 next month. Miller is a certified prodigy.
Jakob Ingebritsen is at 1:51.07; turns 16 next month. Miller is a certified prodigy.
Amazing, but it's not automatically a good thing.
His winning time was faster than the 15/16 and 17/18 year old races.
Pretty amazing let's see if he sticks to track or chooses another sport
Great stride. Also doesn't look that physically mature. No doubt he'll be sub-1:50 all through his HS career. If someone is taking down Granville's record he's probably the one to do it.
next big thing!. wrote:
Great stride. Also doesn't look that physically mature. No doubt he'll be sub-1:50 all through his HS career. If someone is taking down Granville's record he's probably the one to do it.
How does he not look physically mature?
Karma Police wrote:
next big thing!. wrote:Great stride. Also doesn't look that physically mature. No doubt he'll be sub-1:50 all through his HS career. If someone is taking down Granville's record he's probably the one to do it.
How does he not look physically mature?
What? He's not a scrawny white kid? I remember when Lebron James was in high school and people were saying he already looks like he's 30 and not going to get any better. Boy were they wrong.
Miller is built for a 14 year old, but he's not physically mature. Far from it.
next big thing!. wrote:
What? He's not a scrawny white kid? I remember when Lebron James was in high school and people were saying he already looks like he's 30 and not going to get any better. Boy were they wrong.
Miller is built for a 14 year old, but he's not physically mature. Far from it.
I've seen him race several times in the last 3-4 years. He's always been really good, but he's still been improving.
He definitely grew a lot in the last 12 months, he was not as tall last summer when I saw him.
My worry is that he'll get bored of not being pressed in a race. He's hilariously good compared to everyone else, and doesn't have access to international competitions where he even might get a race.
Is there a video of the 1:51?
winner chicken dinner wrote:
Is there a video of the 1:51?
There technically is, but AAU's got their grip tight on it. They offer downloads, but it apparently costs $5.99 PER video. His race is really phenomenal but not worth $5.99.
Here's the link if you're curious
http://www.aautv.orgI disagree. He's been running since he was three, if he wanted to quit, it would've happened already.
Also, it actually looks like he prefers to front run, separating himself before 400m. When he ran 1:51, he (and some other boys) got out in 26 for 200, and he actually looked uncomfortable. When he ran 1:53 his first 200 was a 24 and I didn't see that same strain. Also a funny note, his splits are really wierd.
1:53- 24,28,29,32
1:51- 26,30,26,29
Aren't these unconventional splits for someone so young?
How long before the first idiot suggests he skip getting his high school diploma and turn pro?
Parbuster wrote:
How long before the first idiot suggests he skip getting his high school diploma and turn pro?
Honestly, I can't stand the media (Mainly Milesplit/Flotrack and occasionally LRC) edging kids on to ruin their future. Donavan Brazier, Noah Lyles', and attempts at Sydney McLaughlin and Michael Norman. There is no amount of money( and even the stress that comes with it) that should be able to replace a quality collegiate experience.
The question we all need to basking is who is his current physician?? Clearly he's running well and something has to be going right in the doctor's office.
Add It Up wrote:
Jakob Ingebritsen is at 1:51.07; turns 16 next month. Miller is a certified prodigy.
Ingebrigsten ran 1:52.60 as a 14-year-old. This appears to be a new age record among non African nations:
http://age-records.125mb.com/800m future wrote:
I disagree. He's been running since he was three, if he wanted to quit, it would've happened already.
He'll peak early and be another Granville or burnout during college if he runs NCAA. He won't have a successful pro career.
Too many pros wrote:
[There is no amount of money( and even the stress that comes with it) that should be able to replace a quality collegiate experience.
Because the college experience is for absolutely everyone? That's simply not true.
in that interview in 7th grade, he was saying that when he was doing sprint training, it was 1-2 mpw, when running the 1500m, it was 4 mpw, all this depending on how often practice is. I'm going to go out on a limb, after also seeing that he ran his third 200 in 26, and say that he is not close to finishing development in running. And with faster comp to draft off of right now, it is obvious that he would smash this record.
Yes he is still a young, undeveloped and inexperienced talent. He has a lot of growing to do both physically and in his approach as an athlete. He looks to be a very good talent for the future. I would say world junior medals are there for him to sweep up.
But seriously, this kid is pretty big. If I had to guess without knowing then I'd have said 16/17.
Still an amazing talent, but not the physicality of your average 14 year old.
Karma Police wrote:
Generally speaking, the kids who develop later tend to be better as adults. They get more of the pre-pubescent growth and development before puberty kicks in. In my area, the very early developers I can think of are a 16yo 400/800 (1), formerly top 15yo 100/200 runner (2), national best 100/200 runner for 16yos (3). (1) has improved 1.5 seconds over 400 from 13-16, (2) has barely improved at all from 13-15, and (3) ran 21.7 for 200 when 13, and now at 16 can't break 22. Another holds the National 15yo record (U16) for 100 and 200, and now at 18 can barely run those times.
Those are age spans (13-16) when normal developing boys improve massively. Those kids had that massive improvement at 10-13.
As I say though, who knows. If he's already at 1.50 level, then even if he's like a 17yo in terms of development, normal 17yos still improve a few seconds over 800. And he only needs to improve a few seconds to make it to the Olympics.
As you say speeder, he's certainly got a better chance of making it than someone who wasn't very good when younger.
This kid is just more mature physically than most kids he's racing against. Period. Yes, most of the time kids who develop later end up faster. Considering how most things turn out, it's safe to say this kid will never make the Olympic team. Mark it now. He'll never make it and will likely never break 1:46 (and he'll probably end up slower than that).
Fair enough, College isn't for everyone, but notice how I use the words "quality" and "replace". I'm already talking about the select few that, had they not had the incentive to go pro, would've pursued a collegiate career. The top percent of high schoolers that have the opportunity to go pro aren't usually planning on working at Walmart before or after going pro so regardless college is usually endgame for them.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts