Aden's athletes test negative, will compete in Rio

rojo wrote:

I think the public is stupid at times.

Can you please tell me why you believe they found EPO in his hotel room?

This stuff is very hard to prove.

They'd need to physiotherapist or athlete to flip but it's possible a) Aden wasn't involved or b) they are scared to flip

Some reports say that EPO was found in Aden's room:

The coach of Ethiopian world 1500-metre champion Genzebe Dibaba and other long-distance runners was arrested near Barcelona after Spanish police raided his hotel room and found traces of EPO and other banned substances.

Drug cops swoop on top coach Jama Aden as EPO and other banned substances are found in his hotel room

Maybe these reports were mistaken or garbled, but that's not clear yet. AFAIK, there hasn't been a public document issued by the Spanish police saying definitively whether Spanish police claim that Aden was found with EPO in his room - whatever the Spanish equivalent of an indictment or information would be spelling out the exact charges.

What sucks for track and field is that there is no way that the legal process can be resolved before the Olympics and there will inevitably be a cloud over any event involving Aden's athletes.

Nothing was there, yet the idiots keep accusing the victims.

Why?????

Because they are ignorant racists, and don't like to see excellence in people who are different.

Anyone who thinks that way is totally STUPID.

sickening.

Not sure which is going to make me vomit a bit more...

Didoper winning by 120 meters, or the top 3 'Ladies' in the women's 800 Meters running sub 1:55 while the rest of the actual women struggle to break 2:00.

All the reports, including this recent one, state EPO was found in Aden's room. That's why he was arrested, had his passport confiscated, and is banned from the Olympics.

In the game wrote:

All the reports, including this recent one, state EPO was found in Aden's room. That's why he was arrested, had his passport confiscated, and is banned from the Olympics.

Exactly this.

WTF are you talking about ROJO? From the very beginning, every report has been that dozens of vials of EPO and steroids were found in Aden's room, and that surveillance videos showed Aden himself discarded the syringes in numerous dumpsters.

Furthermore, the man would not have been arrested, had felony charges laid forth, had his passport revoked, and have been banned from Rio had he not been the one caught with illegal drugs in his possession.

ROJO, you are spouting dangerous falsehoods when you claim on your website that drugs were not found in Aden's room. Why would you try to change the story?

In the game wrote:

All the reports, including this recent one, state EPO was found in Aden's room. That's why he was arrested, had his passport confiscated, and is banned from the Olympics.

The reporting has been:- that there were many vials of EPO found.- The EPO was in Aden and Balla's rooms- Aden was seen dumping syringes.Of course that reporting could be wrong but at this point Aden remains in Spain without a passport. I am all for hearing Adens side of the story but I am skeptical of vague statements about the Saudi team and Aden taking injections for personal fatigue and heading out to dispose syringes to protect kids in their early and late teens. When this story broke you searched Farah's Instagram account and published an email from Aden to Salazar. Is there a reason that you are skeptical of The story now?

rojo wrote:

jjjjjj wrote:

And it is not as if they found one tube of Androgel. They found dozens and dozens of pre-filled and used syringes with EPO and steroids in their coach and trainer's rooms, when the coach had paid for all the rooms of his 20 athletes.

Now if that's true. Again, I haven't seen that confirmed since the initial reports, then I agree with you. And if the physio was paid by Aden then I agree with you.

But if some random athlete or physio in a hotel has a vial or two of some illegal substance, then you can't just ban them all. We need proof of systematic doping.

Red Blood Cells wrote:

Unfortunately there are a number of athletes doping who routinely pass tests. Any athlete using the most recent doping techniques/strategies/procedures will beat the tests.

Every NOPer.

Has it been 3 weeks already?

Lord HaHa Coe and the Nike execs have covered this one up nicely. Track is unwatchable as long as the Brits and NOP are allowed in.

Yylo wrote:

When the probable women's 1500 gold medalist is allowed to run after her coach is caught with EPO at the same hotel she is staying at, that's pretty farcical. And very unfair to clean athletes.

It looks like the women's 1500 will be no cleaner than in 2012.

The good news is that a man will win the woman's 800m and a couple of other men may medal in the same event.

Devil Dog wrote:

WTF are you talking about ROJO?

I'm amused when Rojo applies inconsistent standards. If this were Salazar, Rojo would be repeatedly stating "EPO WAS FOUND IN ALBERTO'S HOTEL ROOM!!!!!"

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

Not sure how they passed. Either Aden knew it was coming and timed the dosages to avoid testing positive, or a cover-up occurred. Apparently, Aden possessing drugs isn't enough to ban his athletes. Surely a coach with drugs in his possession wasn't giving them to his athletes.

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Pardon me if I am repeating, I don't have time to read through the thread.

Based on what I have read, I think it is fairly obvious that some of Aden's athletes are doping. The fact that they came up negative does not surprise me because micro dosages of EPO is only detectable in the urine for at most about 10 hours. Perhaps a little longer if they take a large dose, although I think SOP is This means you pretty much have to test athletes on the day they shot up. EPO is detectable in the blood for about a week. EPO is actually detectable much-much longer in the blood, but because there can be a low level of naturally occurring EPO in the body, the WADA allowable thresholds only hold up for about a week.

Do we know if the athletes were forced to give blood samples when the police arrived or just urine?

a cleaner sport wanter wrote:

Yylo wrote:

When the probable women's 1500 gold medalist is allowed to run after her coach is caught with EPO at the same hotel she is staying at, that's pretty farcical. And very unfair to clean athletes.

It looks like the women's 1500 will be no cleaner than in 2012.

The good news is that a man will win the woman's 800m and a couple of other men may medal in the same event.

Yes, but this isn't the IAAF's fault or any individual within the sport. The IAAF didn't want her competing with raised testosterone levels and forced her to take medication to combat this. It was the CAS that overturned that ruling and allowed Semenya to compete with her raised testosterone levels due to being born with testes.

No one at the IAAF can do anything about it.

And there is no evidence the IAAF has covered up this Aden issue. They have to go through proper legal protocol, which is time consuming and wrapped up in red tape. It's very easy for posters on a message board to cry 'foul' when they are not aware of all that has been going on at the top.

Even if the IAAF wanted to ban all of Aden's athletes, which they probably do, I don't think they are in a legal position to do so at the moment, if all the athletes tests came back negative.

The IAAF has made a stand against the Russians, and even this gets criticism from some quarters on here, and have shown that they are now trying to do something about it. But they can't just go around and randomly ban anyone who LetsRun posters think are doping.

fadsfasfasfadsf wrote:

The woman's 1500m gold medalist will be totally clean. She just won't be totally a woman.

Semenya is running the 400 and 800, not the 1500, so not an issue.

they should have llet Vladamir Putin's blood lab analyze the samples to ensure proper handling and results.

Yea. Whatever. Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

I think you might need to read more.

In the game wrote:

All the reports, including this recent one, state EPO was found in Aden's room. That's why he was arrested, had his passport confiscated, and is banned from the Olympics.

That is a total lie, and you know it.

There have been many reports by police that they found NO evidence of EPO in his room, nor in any room were only his athletes were staying.

You prove what I posted, that this is nothing but a racist witch hunt, intended to harass and intimidate exceptional runners simply because of their abilities, and because they are different, i.e. they are not white racist hypocrite pigs.