Zane Robertson had death threats over speaking out over doping in Kenya

If you're a Mzungo living in Kenya you have to set a guard to not get taken advantage of.

Otherwise you have kids begging their neighbor with their hands out everytime they come out the door and hotel (café) owners charging you triple for tea.

Whether on the track or at the neighborhood hotel the Robertsons just want respect.

Just likewise wrote:

Sounds as if Kenya is just as bad as Russia from Zanes tone. Everywhere drug life is the same, threats for anyone who 'snitches.' Kenya is a rotten drugged joke with at win at all costs mentality.

Maybe Kenya doesn't really have all that great of runners. Maybe Kenyan runners always give out death threats to americans at the star tline of their races. scaring americans and ...saying that if you beat me you will die

Or they're bitter about sacrificing, committing 100%, while watching others dope to get 105%.

You know there is a doping problem in Kenya. Your hero Canova said there is a doping problem in Kenya. The world knows there is a doping problem in Kenya. The Robertsons are in the thick of it.

But no, they're just angry mzungos... Nevermind. They're not allowed to be frustrated with what's going on around them.

"I was approached once in 2007 by someone in Kenya but, as you can see in my results over the years, I was nowhere. As a youth growing up in New Zealand with sportsmanship and general morals, you can't consider that. It's not something normal for us.

Very telling remark. One is that in his ten years in Kenya, he was approached only once(?) by a sketchy character who probably hangs around training hotspots targeting what they see as struggling western athletes desperate to become elite? Another is that he thinks his race or nationality automatically bestows some kind of moral and ethical superiority over inherently evil and conniving locals naturally inclined to cheat unlike he who was raised with "sportsmanship and general morals"? I find this highly offensive and it all but confirms what I'd long suspected.

Suddenly thrash talking the country he made his home for TEN(!) freakin years makes you wonder "why now"? Especially when just a couple of months ago he was saying altitude and organic food is what makes Kenyans great?

life is fully of stupid shiit. honor and virtue are the property of the few. cheaters and losers must do what they do to get more than their fair share, and in effect are a parasite and force of devolution, not evolution.

robertson is confirming the obvious with doping in africa. doping is the same in asia,everywhere actually.

robertson points out that russia is a scapegoat..true.

his proposal is to have athletes be ready for testing 24 hours per day.

imagine employers doing the same,drug testing you 24 hours per day, welfare, army, police, big corp. all of them taking you sample, and dna, and shooting you up with flu shots and vaccines.

athletics is setup to be a patsy of big brother.. george orwell didn't write 1984 for nothing. it's the play book more than fiction.

without integrity honor, virtue, forget about any rule set system or approach.

Yet another in the long list of reasons why Kenya should be banned from the Olympics and all other international competitions ....

Rato. wrote:

Caster Semen.....ya wrote:

I should've had the radio on today!

Anybody know what has happened to Jake? He was a bit of a fruit-loop but that is exactly what our sport needs. It is almost like he has dropped off the planet no twitter, nothing..

Isn't it amazing how top 5k&10K runners are slower now than 20 years ago? Yet spike technology, nutrition, cross-conditioning, clothing etc. have all improved no-end since then! I always thought Komen's 12:39 took massive levels of doping, and it isn't even the WR.

Exactly why people on here need to give Mo more appreciation.

Go back to sleep moron, or i'll make a necklace outa youuuuuuuuuu!!!!!

how can anyone take these guys seriously?

have you seen them and heard them speak?

it's like watching and listening to Eminem minus 20 IQ points - in matching 2006 Chicago Bulls attire and extra bling. these guys might be the biggest and dumbest losers in the entire sport.

El Keniano wrote:

ind of moral and ethical superiority over inherently evil and conniving locals naturally inclined to cheat unlike he who was raised with "sportsmanship and general morals"? I find this highly offensive and it all but confirms what I'd long suspected.

There is a huge difference between different nations sportmanship, morals and culture in doping. Some nations (nordic) have greater morals, some (africans, eastern europe, americans) doesn't. Theres different reasons. Africans probably because of less education and more need for money etc. Hes just stating a fact, that you find that offensive shows youre not objective.

You guys are acting like he got actual death threats from athletes or members of the Kenyan Federation, as opposed to people talking shit on Twitter.

That is a death threat as much as when the men on this board comment they'd "tap that right ass" of female runners it's an actual rape threat - i.e. both are just losers spouting off online.

Big deal, some people said some shit to him on Twitter. By that metric this whole message board is threats to athletes. Come on. This would be serious news if he were being threatened by top Kenyan officials. But waaaa people were mean to me online is hardly noteworthy.

Zane gets into it with Kenyan athlete Justin Lagat dragging in Myles Edwards after Justin posted this on Twitter:

"Housed and helped by Kenyan runners for over ten yrs! He has this to say" mobile.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/art…

https://twitter.com/kenyanathlete/status/759652201342140416

Jeez wrote:

You guys are acting like he got actual death threats from athletes or members of the Kenyan Federation, as opposed to people talking shit on Twitter.

That is a death threat as much as when the men on this board comment they'd "tap that right ass" of female runners it's an actual rape threat - i.e. both are just losers spouting off online.

Big deal, some people said some shit to him on Twitter. By that metric this whole message board is threats to athletes. Come on. This would be serious news if he were being threatened by top Kenyan officials. But waaaa people were mean to me online is hardly noteworthy.

Exactly. Delicate flower, Zane, has posted a screenshot of some of the threats on Twitter. Such a lily-livered drama queen. Should delete all his accounts.

Mama Lillies say eat your chap wrote:

If you're a Mzungo living in Kenya you have to set a guard to not get taken advantage of.

Otherwise you have kids begging their neighbor with their hands out everytime they come out the door and hotel (café) owners charging you triple for tea.

Whether on the track or at the neighborhood hotel the Robertsons just want respect.

FYI, the word is 'Mzungu'. And I, myself, have been taken advantage of several times by Taxi drivers, tour guides and waiters in Europe. Once a dentist in Rome charged more than normal just because I sounded like I " hava gooda insurance". It happens to everyone, everywhere.

Anyway, if Kenya is such a filthy, cheating, dirty country, where people are 'necklaced' (seriously?) on a regular basis, why stay for 10 years? There's altitude in New Zealand, Switzerland, Scotland, Peru, Flagstaff ... everywhere. Since it looks like he won't ever set foot in Kenya again, I wish him well and hope he doesn't turn his anger and frustrations on his new home, Ethiopia. Kenyans should be glad to see the backs of these two.

Yes, yesterday I had an email exchange with him.

He did go to the "authorities" which I assume is WADA, but others have gone to the "authorities" before and nothing has happened:

http://athleticsillustrated.com/opinion/zane-robertson-speak-out-about-death-threats-they-were-real-and-there-was-more-than-one/

Hard to take him seriously when you see him making a video like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz3Rm5k7RLM

EOT

Perhaps they made the video under duress? Which brings me to the death threat(s). Apparently it was via a post on his Facebook wall? 😱 So gangsta 🙄

El Keniano, your hypocrisy is too much. You take every opportunity to remind the Americans on this board about their doping problem. Same with Europeans. You call them jealous, and then lazy and uncommitted. But your bias blinds you to evaluating your own. Your bias is so thick, that you take every opportunity to undermine discussions about the extent of doping. You know there is a problem, but still work to mininize any revelation of it. You know everyone would be better off with honest discussion, but you choose a nationalist defensiveness instead.

How does it feel to be part of the problem in athletics? What is your goal? You gain nothing from the success of your runners, but vehemently attack anyone who threatens their dominance. That is not national pride, that is psychopathy.

Your downplay of these threats is the exact problem. You have now exemplified yourself as the problem: the attitude that it is all normal and okay to threaten those who wosh to expose the truth. If you had a moral bone in your body, you could acknowledge there is truth behind Zane's comments, and truth behind the vitriol in the threats against him. But you choose to say that he is a precious flower for is reaction.

You are choosing a world where violence is the status quo. Actually, you are building a world where threats to safety and life are okay. You are building a world where threats if violence are acceptable in protecting the narrative you want to sell the world. You are the worst kind of person.

Dude, this is letsrun where posters regularly harrass runners on social media and doxx people. Look at how people behave on this board towards suspected cheaters - you may agree that cheaters deserve consequences but people from this board regularly call businesses, homes, contact family, advocate showing up in person, flood social media, and otherwise continuously harrass people for months.

Now people are getting pearl clutchy because someone on Twitter made a mean tweet? Have you read this board? 50 percent of this board is sexual harassment towards women. Suddenly you're appalled about Internet etiquette?

Please. If it were Sheila Reid having an opinion again you'd all be advocating telling her to DIAF, feminazi.

What a crock... wrote:

Death threats about PED use in athletics? Seriously? We heard this with Aden and heard Lance said sh*t to threaten others. It's PED use. You see something, you know something, you call WADA and give it to them. You clean up your sport because you A) can and B) want to. The Robertson's went to Kenya years ago and trained as mazungos for years. Suddenly over 5 years later he's spouting this tripe. Shameful.

Weak attempt at defending cheats just because they POC's. Coward.