Murphy is extremely exciting and promising.
Centro, of course, is Centro. One of the most decorated USA middle distance runners ever.
So who will have the more achievements in the middle distances when all is said and done?
Three questions:
Who will have the faster prs from 800-5k? and
Who will have more championship medals from 800-5k? and
Who will have the greatest variety of medals? (800, 1500, 5k, indoor/outdoor, etc)
I think Centro will be the more decorated runner. If history is any indication then Olympic/World Champs medals for US distance runners will be rare. I'd like to see that change but I'm not counting on it yet and since Centro already has a few he's an easy pick on that front. I also can't say that I expect Murphy to drop 6 seconds in the 1500m as of yet. Some pro careers just don't pan out. The 800m I give to Murphy. Centro seems to race every distance as if it were a 1500m and those tactics don't make you fast or good at the 800m. If Murphy does become a top US 1500m guy then I'd give him the edge on the PR front simply because Al Sal refuses to shoot for fast times. More 5k potential for Centro though again not sure he understands how to race any distance not between 1499m and 1501m.
This is a good answer- while Murphy is a bit younger, medals are very, very hard to come by so Centro already has the upper hand (as silly as that logic may seem, I think it makes sense).
Another wild card factor is what happens with doping- assuming that things on the doping front continue to improve, I'd say that improves both of their chances at medals in the future.
Murphy will have Centro at 800.
Centro wins at 1500
Centro will have him at 5k
I wonder what group Murphy will go to after the Olypmics?? (Or has he announced to stay with the Akron coaches long term? Companies usually don't like this).
That would be a banger of a tandem- centro & murphy training together would help both imo. Muprhy is quicker, matthew is stronger.
I meant to say that I'm not sure who would benefit more from improved testing/banning. 800/1500 or 1500/5k?
Centro ran a 13:20 being towed along.
If he actually raced to win (and knew how to race the 5k) he's a 13:10 guy easy. I think ultimately he'll make a great 5k runner, with appropriate training. What I'd like to really see out of Centro is an all-out 1500m. He just needs to go for it and not be afraid of not having that sweet kick the last 150m. Just truly go to the well (I don't think he does often) and Centro could definitely be a 3:29 high guy, at least.
Murphy is definitely a better 800m guy than Centro but Centro has more natural endurance and that will always be his leg up on Murphy, in the 15 and 5. Regardless, I think all their races will be close. And I think Centro has a little extra fuel after this 1k loss
Let's not forget Murphy's 45-46 second 400m split. For an 8/15 guy, with that much speed, and his XC strength, he could definitely be dangerous even in a 3000 if it wasn't SUPER fast.
Sourced wrote:
This is a good answer- while Murphy is a bit younger, medals are very, very hard to come by so Centro already has the upper hand (as silly as that logic may seem, I think it makes sense).
Another wild card factor is what happens with doping- assuming that things on the doping front continue to improve, I'd say that improves both of their chances at medals in the future.
Murphy will have Centro at 800.
Centro wins at 1500
Centro will have him at 5k
I wonder what group Murphy will go to after the Olypmics?? (Or has he announced to stay with the Akron coaches long term? Companies usually don't like this).
That would be a banger of a tandem- centro & murphy training together would help both imo. Muprhy is quicker, matthew is stronger.
i think murphy can have the better overall career if he doesn't pick a crappy coach/team as a pro. I just think he's more talented, that 45 second 400 meter speed is world class for a 800/1500 guy.
But why even mention the 5k? If Murphy ever races something above the 1500/mile as a pro, his coach is STUPID. Maybe maybe an early season 3k later in his career.
The Man, Bro wrote:
What I'd like to really see out of Centro is an all-out 1500m. He just needs to go for it and not be afraid of not having that sweet kick the last 150m. Just truly go to the well (I don't think he does often) and Centro could definitely be a 3:29 high guy, at least.
What do you think Centro's runs at Monaco were the last three years?
Les wrote:
What do you think Centro's runs at Monaco were the last three years?
they weren't all out bro
Wish they were racing in the 800 again for tracktown