NJNY GOES 1-2-3 at Ireland's MORTON MILE

malmo wrote

Financially silly wrote:

That is awesome. Thousands of dollars to travel around the world to run against teammates. Makes sense.

Completely clueless. Bravo.

Please Malmo, educate us. Explain the economics behind why it is better to go to Europe than to creat Meets in the US? Especially if " level of competition" remains the same. I understand why The Golden League Meets are worth traveling to but I am specifically asking about the Meets where Americans are responsible for over half the field.

I am not trying to be snarky, I truly want to learn.

Sorry I meant to say DIAMOND LEAGUE not Golden.

How is the NJNY club run?

Gags is coach and works with athletes from any shoe company?

They each pay him depending on their sponsorship deal; a percentage?

Any of them NOT sponsored by shoe company and the club pays for living expenses, travel, gear, etc?

D1onstreetD3insheets wrote:

It is incredibly difficult to gain entry in to a Diamond League race. INCREDIBLY HARD. You have no idea. It is also isn't a walk in the park to make a US Olympic or World Championship team.

Duh

Then how the heck does Jordan Hasay gain entry? Her times are pedestrian at best.

Your logic is all over the place.

The "economics" are same as the reason for robbing banks -- "that's where the money is." You travel to the meets, the meets don't travel to you. If you are a professional runner your travel, accommodations and appearance fee is covered, either by the meet or by your agreement with your sponsor. If not, you are not a professional, you are a tourist. (I have nothing against tourists BTW)

Didn't think you were trying to be snarky, but you have to recognize that you are presenting an illogical dichotomy; that is, contrasting real world meets in Europe versus imaginary meets in the US. Do you understand the gap in your logic? Athletes can only compete, and make cashola, in the real world. Dreamers get neither.

Well done by the NYNJ boys with some very solid miles, but I would certainly not go so far as to say they would be competitive at a Diamond League event. We are all smart enough to know you can't take times out of context and compare them across races.

Plenty of non-DL European races for these guys to try to get to the next level, though.

Great job. WE, in the track and field community, should do all we can to support teams like the NY/NJ team, and to support coaches like Gags, who has spent his career helping post-collage athletes

Thank god they got out of NJ in July!

Doesn't look like there are any more fans for a track meet there, than here? Empty stadium can't be very stimulating, adding to their performances being very good under the circumstances.

Chin up and Pull up champ wrote:

D1onstreetD3insheets wrote:

It is incredibly difficult to gain entry in to a Diamond League race. INCREDIBLY HARD. You have no idea. It is also isn't a walk in the park to make a US Olympic or World Championship team.

Duh

Then how the heck does Jordan Hasay gain entry? Her times are pedestrian at best.

Don't know. Maybe Nike and /or Salazar pull strings. We all know they can do that. With that said...it is a fact that it is incredibly hard to get into a DL meet.

OuttaHereScrub! wrote:

1. Most of them don't pay for travel.

2. Get paid for placing in bigger races

3. Time bonus

4. Experience of a lifetime spent with friends

Get out of here ya bum

Financially silly wrote:

That is awesome. Thousands of dollars to travel around the world to run against teammates. Makes sense.

Where does NJNY's money come from??

not Nike wrote:

How is the NJNY club run?

Gags is coach and works with athletes from any shoe company?

They each pay him depending on their sponsorship deal; a percentage?

Any of them NOT sponsored by shoe company and the club pays for living expenses, travel, gear, etc?

Gags is the founder of the NJNY club. Originally any runner from any sponsor could join the club. So you see runners from different shoe companies on the team. But as it stands now, I believe from this point on , unless it is an exception to the rule (like being on the team now and being grandfathered in) you will need to be a Hoka sponsored athlete to be on the team. Hoka is the team's major sponsor.

Don't know how Gags is paid but it is a good guess that the runner's pay him a fee each month if they are a pro with a shoe contract. Also, Hoka may have him on their pay roll.

There are non-sponsored runner's on the team. Gags loves to help runner's he thinks have potential. Most of the runner's on the team are under contract with a shoe company but there are a few who are still looking. For those athletes not under sponsorship, the team may or may not help them with expenses. Probably depends on their level of commitment and talent potential.

NYNJ seems to function like a "real" team. They live together, train together and travel together.

Yousaidit wrote:

D1onstreetD3insheets wrote:

It is incredibly difficult to gain entry in to a Diamond League race. INCREDIBLY HARD. You have no idea. It is also isn't a walk in the park to make a US Olympic or World Championship team.

That said, they all ran 3:55 miles and swept it (a prestigious mile event in Europe) in dominant fashion. Also, might I add, 5 days after doing something similar in Italy and having traveled across Europe.

That is impressive if you ask me. Even if you take the time out of it, which is fast in of itself, how often do you see training groups do this? It makes the sport fun for them and American fans.

Duh

Very well said. We need to start giving credit where credit is due. These guys deserve a "well done!".

Bingo!!!

Can you tell me if any of the 3 are Irish?

(I do not think Gagliano is Irish.)

Please.Stop.It.Brits.Really??? wrote:

Yousaidit wrote:

Very well said. We need to start giving credit where credit is due. These guys deserve a "well done!".

Bingo!!!

Can you tell me if any of the 3 are Irish?

(I do not think Gagliano is Irish.)

I heard Merber and Alexander have Irish heritage and they said Gregorek's Olympian father ran at Providence back in the day with some of the all- time great Irish middle distance greats.

So the clubs only Olympian (Cabral - Nike) won't be allowed in group anymore? Doubtful!

Palo Alto should host a DL race.

I'm guessing you mean at Stanford, but i don't think they could seat nearly enough people for this. They only have stands on one side of the track and they aren't big enough for 100 people. I don't think they'd be able to make enough money for it to be worth it.

Papa Gregorek (John) ran at Georgetown as did mom Chris. Chris ran in the Olympic Trials in '76, '80 and '84.

If you read the team description closely, the poster did say that if you aren't currently a Hoka athlete, like Cabral, and currently on the team, you would be grandfathered in and allowed to stay with the club. Johnny Gregorek and a few others are in this boat. They are good to go but from this point on, you probably need to be Hoka to be in NJNY.