If those three were to race in the mile what place would they get and what would be their times
If those three were to race in the mile what place would they get and what would be their times
Eaton has run 45.00 for 400m, and a 4:14 1500 at the end of a decathlon, so he is more or less a 4:30 miler, but I would still give him my vote.
I think the 800 would be a better race. I believe all three could run better than 1:49 if they had a pacer go out in 52.xx.
Would need to be a $10M prize to possibly motivate these dudes to try hard. Given six months to train Eaton could go sub-4:20 easily. Bolt wouldn't break 5:00...maybe Wariner could squeeze out a 4:55.
Lunarglide7 wrote:
If those three were to race in the mile what place would they get and what would be their times
Sometimes I wonder how fast I could eat an entire watermelon, but then I realized that nobody cares. Hmm...
Wariner could go much faster than 4:55. He ran that 800 last year around 1:50? With or maybe even without training I would say he is your winner if the three of these guys raced. Most 1:50 guys are good for at least 4:15 with bad endurance and with good endurance you are looking to break 4.
Other options wrote:
Wariner could go much faster than 4:55. He ran that 800 last year around 1:50? With or maybe even without training I would say he is your winner if the three of these guys raced. Most 1:50 guys are good for at least 4:15 with bad endurance and with good endurance you are looking to break 4.
I think it would be close, actually.
Also, don't forget that Eaton has run the 800 and 1000 indoors multiple times, so we can have some confidence in his times there. His PRs indoors are 1:55 (800) and 2:32 (1000).
That compares not that far off from Wariner's 1:53.
If I had to make a prediction though, I think if all three were training for their respective events, you'd see the result something like:
1) Wariner 4:26
2) Eaton 4:30
3) Bolt 4:50
I wouldn't be shocked if Wariner and Eaton swapped, though.
The reason that I choose Wariner to win the mile is based on a comparison of the 100, 400, and 800 times.
Wariner is significantly slower in the 100m than Eaton (10.21 versus 10.92), and yet Wariner's 400m is 1.5 seconds faster than Eaton's. Some of this can be attributed to skill and experience (so Wariner's actual 100m ability was probably more like 10.6, and Eaton's 400m ability might be more like 44.6).
But this suggests that Wariner is doing a better job of "extending out" than Eaton.
Then when you look at the 800m, I think it also is favorable for Wariner. Wariner has run the 800m once, and he ran 1:53. Eaton has run the 800m or 1000m many dozens of times, and yet his 800m PR is 1:55. This leads me to believe that Eaton's 800m PR wasn't far off from his true ability at the time. But I do believe that Wariner's ability was probably a second or two faster than what he ran, since it was his only 800m race.
This also leads me to expect Wariner to take the win in the mile.
So between the two comparisons, I think Wariner is the mile winner, but again, I don't think his edge is very large.
I'm not even going to discuss Bolt. His most recent 400m was last season when he ran 46.38. That leads me to believe he will have some very significant slowing as the race distance goes up, even compared to Wariner and Eaton. I think he could go sub 5 just on sheer athleticism, but there is no way I think he could keep up with Eaton and Wariner.
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Other options wrote:Wariner could go much faster than 4:55. He ran that 800 last year around 1:50? With or maybe even without training I would say he is your winner if the three of these guys raced. Most 1:50 guys are good for at least 4:15 with bad endurance and with good endurance you are looking to break 4.
I think it would be close, actually.
Also, don't forget that Eaton has run the 800 and 1000 indoors multiple times, so we can have some confidence in his times there. His PRs indoors are 1:55 (800) and 2:32 (1000).
That compares not that far off from Wariner's 1:53.
If I had to make a prediction though, I think if all three were training for their respective events, you'd see the result something like:
1) Wariner 4:26
2) Eaton 4:30
3) Bolt 4:50
I wouldn't be shocked if Wariner and Eaton swapped, though.
The reason that I choose Wariner to win the mile is based on a comparison of the 100, 400, and 800 times.
Wariner is significantly slower in the 100m than Eaton (10.21 versus 10.92), and yet Wariner's 400m is 1.5 seconds faster than Eaton's. Some of this can be attributed to skill and experience (so Wariner's actual 100m ability was probably more like 10.6, and Eaton's 400m ability might be more like 44.6).
But this suggests that Wariner is doing a better job of "extending out" than Eaton.
Then when you look at the 800m, I think it also is favorable for Wariner. Wariner has run the 800m once, and he ran 1:53. Eaton has run the 800m or 1000m many dozens of times, and yet his 800m PR is 1:55. This leads me to believe that Eaton's 800m PR wasn't far off from his true ability at the time. But I do believe that Wariner's ability was probably a second or two faster than what he ran, since it was his only 800m race.
This also leads me to expect Wariner to take the win in the mile.
So between the two comparisons, I think Wariner is the mile winner, but again, I don't think his edge is very large.
I'm not even going to discuss Bolt. His most recent 400m was last season when he ran 46.38. That leads me to believe he will have some very significant slowing as the race distance goes up, even compared to Wariner and Eaton. I think he could go sub 5 just on sheer athleticism, but there is no way I think he could keep up with Eaton and Wariner.
Wariner has not run under 45 seconds for a 400 since 2012. Eaton ran 45.0 last summer at the end of the first day of a decathlon. In 2016 Eaton is probably a better 400 meter runner. He has run multiple 1500s and that experience combined with the essentially equal if not better (current) 400 speed would make him the favorite
and this is a stoopid question
Bolt is definitely not going sub 5 maybe not even sub 6.
Are you stupid? I know 22sec 200m runners/football players who can run 3200m in a little over 12 minutes. To think that bolt couldn't go sub-6 is laughable. Bolt is going 4:40s.
Tri Ball wrote:
Bolt is definitely not going sub 5 maybe not even sub 6.
DoritosLocosTacos wrote:
Are you stupid? I know 22sec 200m runners/football players who can run 3200m in a little over 12 minutes. To think that bolt couldn't go sub-6 is laughable. Bolt is going 4:40s.
Tri Ball wrote:Bolt is definitely not going sub 5 maybe not even sub 6.
No 22 sec 200 footballer is doing 12 low for 32.
DoritosLocosTacos wrote:
Are you stupid? I know 22sec 200m runners/football players who can run 3200m in a little over 12 minutes. To think that bolt couldn't go sub-6 is laughable. Bolt is going 4:40s.
Tri Ball wrote:Bolt is definitely not going sub 5 maybe not even sub 6.
Just because Bolt is faster than a high school football player doesn't mean he will be faster over a mile. It's the law of specialization.
Alan
Other options wrote:
Wariner could go much faster than 4:55. He ran that 800 last year around 1:50? With or maybe even without training I would say he is your winner if the three of these guys raced. Most 1:50 guys are good for at least 4:15 with bad endurance and with good endurance you are looking to break 4.
Wariner could probably run 4:15 mile, or 4:00 for 1500m, he'd win not even close.
Decathletes have to be bigger for throws, so Wariner would easily win.
Wariner could go maybe 4:25.
Eaton maybe 4:35 - 4:40.
Doubt that Bolt could run a mile. Maybe he could jog 7:30, but is probably too lazy and shiftless to try.
Bolt doesn't even jog warmups. For competition warmup he does about 6 50m stride-throughs and that's about it. His coach would never allow him to run a mile in training due to scoliosis. Now Allyson Felix has run a 4:55 mile time trial (in January 2014 at least), so I'm sure Bolt could do that. But if you take any decent sprinter (100/200) and tell that person to go run 2 miles, he's going to quit and find another coach, and Allyson isn't sure which she hates more: running a mile or 30 minutes on a stairmaster.
Running a mile is for people who can't sprint.