So I found a pair of bib-swappers, the aftermath has been interesting.

It's ok because she doesn't post very often and she's actually fast. Two a day blog posts by slow people are boring

How did they get disqualified? Did they inform the RD themselves, after your blog was posted?

Hi John Doyle and Richard Munro!

http://imgur.com/a/lV1Js

I wonder why their Facebook profiles are gone...

https://www.facebook.com/John.Doyle101?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/richard.munro.56?fref=ts

RYinvestigator wrote:

https://ausrunning.net/stats/redflags-2015.phphttps://secure.tiktok.biz/results/view/goldcoastmarathon/2015/M05244https://secure.tiktok.biz/results/view/goldcoastmarathon/2015/M02476

The only way to stop cheaters is to expose them: post their pictures, their threats etc.

That top link makes me think there's a hell of a lot of marathon cheating going on. And Australia has a small population. Must be thousands of marathon cheaters in the US.

Bunny Fastard wrote:

RYinvestigator wrote:https://ausrunning.net/stats/redflags-2015.phphttps://secure.tiktok.biz/results/view/goldcoastmarathon/2015/M05244https://secure.tiktok.biz/results/view/goldcoastmarathon/2015/M02476

The only way to stop cheaters is to expose them: post their pictures, their threats etc.

That top link makes me think there's a hell of a lot of marathon cheating going on. And Australia has a small population. Must be thousands of marathon cheaters in the US.

Where did the top link get all that info from??

That top link makes me think there's a hell of a lot of marathon cheating going on.

The top link only lists people who were not DQ'ed. For instance, in the Red Flags 2014 list, the entry below got crossed out, after he was DQed.

Sunshine Coast Marathon

John Mouland - 3:12:34 - cut course after 32k finishing in a Boston qualifying time. Runner in Boston Marathon 2015. See also Sydney Marathon 2013. DQ

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Logical Discrepancy wrote:

I suspect that cheat bloggers are all just jealous haters who spend all of their time trying to disprove anyone who is better than them.

The only problem with that theory is that Rachel beat both of the bib-swapping cheats anyway. So either she's sociopathic and trying disprove people who are worse than her, or there's another explanation.

Another explanation could be that as an elite "age group runner" she's been beaten by cheats in the past but has never had any proof. She is now hyper aware of such activity and scrutinises race photos with a fine tooth comb. Even the runners of the opposite sex. A problem your typical track 5000 in 15 minutes LRCer would not have (you can't bib swap or course cut a track race).

I was genuinely interested in what happened and I have tried several times to work my way through your blog, but your writing is truly atrocious. Do you have ADHD? Or were you unable to pass high school English? It's like you are purposely trying to create a rambling confusing mess so that at the end nothing is clear at all.

I was going to ask someone to summarise your rambling mess for me - who was the faster runner, who was the slower runner - but actually, I have now stopped caring. My advice - stick to running and don't try to write anymore. I'm almost certain this could have been much more clearly written in a single paragraph by a child.

Learn to write wrote:

I was genuinely interested in what happened and I have tried several times to work my way through your blog, but your writing is truly atrocious. Do you have ADHD? Or were you unable to pass high school English? It's like you are purposely trying to create a rambling confusing mess so that at the end nothing is clear at all.

I was going to ask someone to summarise your rambling mess for me - who was the faster runner, who was the slower runner - but actually, I have now stopped caring. My advice - stick to running and don't try to write anymore. I'm almost certain this could have been much more clearly written in a single paragraph by a child.

kinda harsh man............poor lady didn't know what she was in for with some of u LRC posters

holy crap this was boring

easy dude... wrote:

kinda harsh man............poor lady didn't know what she was in for with some of u LRC posters

Yes she did, she's been a LR sleuth and troll herself on other threads.

Auzzy one wrote:

Too many super sleuths out there now. Its getting silly.

Super Sleuths Unite! Join forces and become the Marathon Justice League!!!

Of course they will all wear costumes to maintain their anonymity.

This is just another example of someone who's come on to an internet forum and identified who they are. I knew who she was from the Rob Young thread "(although I am an experienced marathoner (I have run Boston 3 times in the Elite Women’s field) and am also a doctor with a good grasp of physiology).", also that she was Australian and knew an Aussie marathoner who just missed out on Olympic selection (Brad Milosevic).

I guess as she's given it out on other threads so she got to take it on this one.

Never smart to give away who you are, especially on the LR forum.

Yes she did wrote:

easy dude... wrote:

kinda harsh man............poor lady didn't know what she was in for with some of u LRC posters

Yes she did, she's been a LR sleuth and troll herself on other threads.

Others also commented on how bad the writing was; "hopelessly confusing" was probably the most accurate description very early on. I guess you could call the critic of her writing harsh, but only harsh in it's brutal honesty.

I also found the blog a terrible mess of writing and tried a few times to figure out the story, It was not worth the effort in the end for what ended up being a non-story.

I have learned that confusing posts end up doing well on letsrun, like counting every other tree, and likely it's only her poor writing that has created this many comments on an otherwise nothing post.

it was bad wrote:

Yes she did wrote:

Yes she did, she's been a LR sleuth and troll herself on other threads.

Others also commented on how bad the writing was; "hopelessly confusing" was probably the most accurate description very early on. I guess you could call the critic of her writing harsh, but only harsh in it's brutal honesty.

I also found the blog a terrible mess of writing and tried a few times to figure out the story, It was not worth the effort in the end for what ended up being a non-story.

I have learned that confusing posts end up doing well on letsrun, like counting every other tree, and likely it's only her poor writing that has created this many comments on an otherwise nothing post.

After all these negative comments, I finally read the blog post.

It's not nearly as bad as some of these posts are claiming. And it wasn't like she trashed these guys. Pretty harmless all in all, although not sure why she posted here.

Sum it up wrote:

not sure why she posted here.

Attention seeking?

Sum it up wrote:

not sure why she posted here.

Attention seeking?

Or it could be an invitation to others to track down such nefarious bib-swappers too, showing how "interesting" and fun such a hobby can be.

Learn to write wrote:

I was genuinely interested in what happened and I have tried several times to work my way through your blog, but your writing is truly atrocious. Do you have ADHD? Or were you unable to pass high school English? It's like you are purposely trying to create a rambling confusing mess so that at the end nothing is clear at all.

I was going to ask someone to summarise your rambling mess for me - who was the faster runner, who was the slower runner - but actually, I have now stopped caring. My advice - stick to running and don't try to write anymore. I'm almost certain this could have been much more clearly written in a single paragraph by a child.

Hi John Doyle and Richard Munro!

Rojo, pls investigate the ip addresses of all the idiots replying to this thread. I suspect the results would be very interesting.

slip wrote:

Rojo, pls investigate the ip addresses of all the idiots replying to this thread. I suspect the results would be very interesting.

Indeed. They all belong to the bib swappers. I am glad the OP has outed more idiots that think the rules don't apply to them.