Those of us who were there at the M/Z collision will roll their eyes that there is a book about it. All that needs to be said could be said in about four lines, but somehow they will pad it out to a whole volume.
Zola - good at XC but no wheels. Scaredy cat persona.
Mary - Supreme talent but dodgy pins. Attention seeking beeach. Doper by 84. Would have won.
They made contact and fell over. End of story.
I met Mary at an event in 2011. Bitter, bitter woman. I listened to her speak for about 30 minutes about how Budd tripped her and that Budd never claimed responsibility.
I will forever be Team Budd in this conflict as a result.
aosdufy wrote:
Zola - good at XC but no wheels. Scaredy cat persona.
Mary - Supreme talent but dodgy pins. Attention seeking beeach. Doper by 84. Would have won.
They made contact and fell over. End of story.
Zola didn't fall
smile wrote:
aosdufy wrote:Zola - good at XC but no wheels. Scaredy cat persona.
Mary - Supreme talent but dodgy pins. Attention seeking beeach. Doper by 84. Would have won.
They made contact and fell over. End of story.
Zola didn't fall
Correct sir. Sorry.
Jeff Albertson wrote:
I met Mary at an event in 2011. Bitter, bitter woman. I listened to her speak for about 30 minutes about how Budd tripped her and that Budd never claimed responsibility.
I will forever be Team Budd in this conflict as a result.
This.
No dope; great wheels.
fred wrote:
No dope; great wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhCoUQN9rY8
No dope yes, and considering MD and Puica were swimming in PEDS she was likely the best clean woman of her era. But this does not show 'wheels'. Could not change pace - sorta reminds me of Hasay. She was only happy if out alone. Pity for her there was no W10000 in those days.....
Mary's destruction of the Eastern European dopers in the double at 1500 and 3000 in the 1983 World Track and Field Championships was epic, particularly because she front-ran those races! She got revenge on the main characters from 1984, and Eastern Europeans, in a race in 1985 with Budd and others.
The doping on her part we have no proof of in the 1980s, but it was suspect once she was in a relationship with a weight-thrower (Slaney) and from what I've heard of Athletics West. That being said, she was not wrong to blame Zola Budd, who caused the collision and this wasn't a simple case of Olympic dreams being dashed. Decker was too young to be allowed to compete at the Olympics in 1972, when she might have medaled at 14. She was injured with compartment syndrome, etc. and couldn't compete at the Olympics in 1976. In 1980, the U.S. boycott prevented her from competing. Finally, in 1984, twelve years after what should have been her first Olympics, she got to compete in L.A. and would likely have been double gold winner, and Budd caused her to fall. So, there is a lot of history behind Decker being upset, petulant, and refusing to recognize that her young competitor did not intend to harm her or dash her dreams.
jjjjjjj wrote:
Mary's destruction of the Eastern European dopers in the double at 1500 and 3000 in the 1983 World Track and Field Championships was epic, particularly because she front-ran those races! She got revenge on the main characters from 1984, and Eastern Europeans, in a race in 1985 with Budd and others.
The doping on her part we have no proof of in the 1980s, but it was suspect once she was in a relationship with a weight-thrower (Slaney) and from what I've heard of Athletics West. That being said, she was not wrong to blame Zola Budd, who caused the collision and this wasn't a simple case of Olympic dreams being dashed. Decker was too young to be allowed to compete at the Olympics in 1972, when she might have medaled at 14. She was injured with compartment syndrome, etc. and couldn't compete at the Olympics in 1976. In 1980, the U.S. boycott prevented her from competing. Finally, in 1984, twelve years after what should have been her first Olympics, she got to compete in L.A. and would likely have been double gold winner, and Budd caused her to fall. So, there is a lot of history behind Decker being upset, petulant, and refusing to recognize that her young competitor did not intend to harm her or dash her dreams.
Blah-Blah
Mary will always be known to history as - Cry Baby Mary
jjjjjjj wrote:
Mary's destruction of the Eastern European dopers in the double at 1500 and 3000 in the 1983 World Track and Field Championships was epic, particularly because she front-ran those races! She got revenge on the main characters from 1984, and Eastern Europeans, in a race in 1985 with Budd and others.
The doping on her part we have no proof of in the 1980s, but it was suspect once she was in a relationship with a weight-thrower (Slaney) and from what I've heard of Athletics West. That being said, she was not wrong to blame Zola Budd, who caused the collision and this wasn't a simple case of Olympic dreams being dashed. Decker was too young to be allowed to compete at the Olympics in 1972, when she might have medaled at 14. She was injured with compartment syndrome, etc. and couldn't compete at the Olympics in 1976. In 1980, the U.S. boycott prevented her from competing. Finally, in 1984, twelve years after what should have been her first Olympics, she got to compete in L.A. and would likely have been double gold winner, and Budd caused her to fall. So, there is a lot of history behind Decker being upset, petulant, and refusing to recognize that her young competitor did not intend to harm her or dash her dreams.
Bloody Yankee hypocrite!!!
Accuses the Eastern Europeans of doping yet he has no evidence then claims MD was not a doper because there is no evidence.
Wrap yourself in your flag and go back into the hole where you came from.
Parbuster wrote:
jjjjjjj wrote:Mary's destruction of the Eastern European dopers in the double at 1500 and 3000 in the 1983 World Track and Field Championships was epic, particularly because she front-ran those races! She got revenge on the main characters from 1984, and Eastern Europeans, in a race in 1985 with Budd and others.
The doping on her part we have no proof of in the 1980s, but it was suspect once she was in a relationship with a weight-thrower (Slaney) and from what I've heard of Athletics West. That being said, she was not wrong to blame Zola Budd, who caused the collision and this wasn't a simple case of Olympic dreams being dashed. Decker was too young to be allowed to compete at the Olympics in 1972, when she might have medaled at 14. She was injured with compartment syndrome, etc. and couldn't compete at the Olympics in 1976. In 1980, the U.S. boycott prevented her from competing. Finally, in 1984, twelve years after what should have been her first Olympics, she got to compete in L.A. and would likely have been double gold winner, and Budd caused her to fall. So, there is a lot of history behind Decker being upset, petulant, and refusing to recognize that her young competitor did not intend to harm her or dash her dreams.
Bloody Yankee hypocrite!!!
Accuses the Eastern Europeans of doping yet he has no evidence then claims MD was not a doper because there is no evidence.
Wrap yourself in your flag and go back into the hole where you came from.
Light up, Yo!
the poster did indicate that in retrospect Decker-Slaney was suspect based on AW and being married to a doper. Probably among those whose test results they swept under the rug prior to the Games.
That said, a little background from 1984. Indoors, may have been at Jack In the Box, Decker-Slaney plowed over a lapped runner at the finish of a mile race. I think the other woman was from Japan. She was in lane 1 just crossing the line as Decker Slaney was finishing, and Mary just pushed her face down. There was a bit of a stir, but as usual she was petulant and defensive.
Then at OTs in LA a month before the Olympics Ruth Wysocki outkicked her with 50 m to go, to win in 4:00. It was the first time in years that D-S had been beaten by an American. She pretty much pouted on the awards stand. She may or may not have medaled in the Olympics, hadn't shown the form she'd had in 1983.
Back to the indoor track reference, in the interviews after the fall D-S was very defensive and said something like she'd have been crucified (my word not hers) if she'd gotten physical pushed "Little Zola" (I clearly remember that) to the track.
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