Could Kiprop close 13:45 in 50.00?

No.

Easily.

His PB is 13:48 so I'm gonna go with no.

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

His PB is 13:48 so I'm gonna go with no.

You cant honestly believe that

ididj wrote:

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

His PB is 13:48 so I'm gonna go with no.

You cant honestly believe that

What do you believe his PB is?

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

ididj wrote:

You cant honestly believe that

What do you believe his PB is?

On paper, yes but you can't judge his best from a single training run and at altitude for that matter. The better way to assess that is by his 12K cross country times in 2013, 2014 and 2015. His best over the 12K was just over 35 mins and he beat a good number of sub 13 min 5Kers to finish in top 7. This year he finished third in the very competitive police 10K cross country championships, only beaten by Geoffrey Kamworor and Augustine Choge. Those who fell on the side include Caleb Ndiku Mwangangi, Isiah Koech among others. I would put his best to be in 13:20s at the worst.

It would be almost impossible to hit any split to the hundredth of a second.

M'madou wrote:

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

What do you believe his PB is?

On paper, yes but you can't judge his best from a single training run and at altitude for that matter. The better way to assess that is by his 12K cross country times in 2013, 2014 and 2015. His best over the 12K was just over 35 mins and he beat a good number of sub 13 min 5Kers to finish in top 7. This year he finished third in the very competitive police 10K cross country championships, only beaten by Geoffrey Kamworor and Augustine Choge. Those who fell on the side include Caleb Ndiku Mwangangi, Isiah Koech among others. I would put his best to be in 13:20s at the worst.

Whoa. That's a lot better than I thought.

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Seems plausible

A 13:45 winning time amongst a championship-caliber field, means a last mile of 3 60's followed by a 50? Not likely.

Anand the Moose wrote:

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Seems plausible

A 13:45 winning time amongst a championship-caliber field, means a last mile of 3 60's followed by a 50? Not likely.

Did you see USA 5K couple weeks ago?

too specific wrote:

It would be almost impossible to hit any split to the hundredth of a second.

+1

You must be an engineer.

M'madou wrote:

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

What do you believe his PB is?

On paper, yes but you can't judge his best from a single training run and at altitude for that matter. The better way to assess that is by his 12K cross country times in 2013, 2014 and 2015. His best over the 12K was just over 35 mins and he beat a good number of sub 13 min 5Kers to finish in top 7. This year he finished third in the very competitive police 10K cross country championships, only beaten by Geoffrey Kamworor and Augustine Choge. Those who fell on the side include Caleb Ndiku Mwangangi, Isiah Koech among others. I would put his best to be in 13:20s at the worst.

So what went wrong in his 13:48? If it was tactical did he close in 50? If so we would have heard about it. If not then we have our answer.

If his max 5k ability is 13:20 (and I agree it is that if not better) then there's no chance in hell he closes a 13:45 in 50 flat.

I know the OP was asking whether he could close in 50 seconds in a 13:45. The answer to that is most likely not at the moment. He would need to shift his focus to 5K and in a few months or a year he should be able to do that especially if there is a fierce competitor with closing speed like that of Bernard Lagat . My point was directed to those who believe Kiprop's personal best is 13:48. That race was run in altitude and on dirt track. Nixon Chepseba, Silas Kiplagat and Paul Kipsiele Koech among others were in that race. It was part of speed-endurance build-up for them before early in the season.

Absolutely. Physically he is totally capable of this. Mentally, I don't know him personally, but his middle distance times combined with his XC ability are evidence that if he trained for the 5K, he would be able to close a 13:45 race in around 50.

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Seems plausible

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Seems plausible

You are honestly the worst poster on here.

Kiprop is more of an 800/1500 type so I'm going to say no.

Anand the Moose wrote:

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Seems plausible

A 13:45 winning time amongst a championship-caliber field, means a last mile of 3 60's followed by a 50? Not likely.

Agree if they jogged to the bell he could do it but someone always takes it out earlier

He could still potentially win but not in 50.0

Just Some Real Thoughts wrote:

If his max 5k ability is 13:20 (and I agree it is that if not better) then there's no chance in hell he closes a 13:45 in 50 flat.

Worth noting, if he's closing in 50 for a final time of 13:45, that means his pace for the previous 11.5 laps would be just over 14:00 pace. 14:00 pace for a low 13:00 - 13:15 guy would feel like a jog.

50.0 might be a stretch (thought not impossible), but 50.9 seems pretty doable.

Lagat ran 51.9 in a 12:59 race. Lagat was probably in 3:29 shape when he did that. Slow the pace down by almost a minute, and I think Kiprop, in 3:26-3:27 shape, could close 1 second faster.

Is the question really whether Kiprop could outkick Farah in a 5k off of a slow pace? I can't imagine Farah would let it come down to the last 400m without accelerating through the previous three laps and if Kiprop were just stilling on Farah that whole time...I'd really like to see that race run.