Konstanze Kloshterhalfen - German's Mary Cain - wins bronze in 3000 at World Juniors by running 8:46!!

they call me flopro wrote:

Oregon needs to call her a s a p what a talent 8.46 is pretty fast.

Well *I'd* call her a sap if she went there.

We have a better system in Germany for aspiring world-class athletes:

- they get employed by the Federal Border Guards, police or army

- you might have heard about social security and health insurance for all employees

- they have a (consistent) trainer at club level

- and are free to sign sponsor contracts

An athlete considering the US college system must be daft or way below national caliber.

And that our education system is more or less free is such a standard thing that I completely forgot to mention that.

Tying an athlete's education and decade-long financial well-being to her/his ability to remain injury-free is a bet that european athletes just don't have to risk.

they call me flopro wrote:

Damn she is fast I wonder if she has any interest in College in the U.S.? If so Oregon needs to call her a s a p what a talent 8.46 is pretty fast.

LOL as if an athlete of her calibre would go to the USA for college. Germany has a far superior structure for athletes.

Yeah i think your right i bet Germany wins more medals in track and field then the U.S. does in Rio far superior system :(

Last statement i was kidding Oregon has 18-19 former or current athletes that made Rio this year and i wouldn't be surprised wins more medals then Germany does between them then again who knows but i can't wait to watch the Olympics :) But other Countries seem to develop distance runners a lot better then the U.S. does.

cpr wrote:

We have a better system in Germany for aspiring world-class athletes:

- they get employed by the Federal Border Guards, police or army

What about those who don't want to be a border guard, policewomen or soldier?

Combining sports and a university education in Germany is way harder than in the US

Obviously an age cheat or she's doping. Oh wait she's white, she's perfect.

Stop the crazy kenyan wrote:

cpr wrote:

We have a better system in Germany for aspiring world-class athletes:

- they get employed by the Federal Border Guards, police or army

What about those who don't want to be a border guard, policewomen or soldier?

Combining sports and a university education in Germany is way harder than in the US

You don't actually have to do the job, you're just employed by them.

An advantage is that if the sporting career goes tits-up, you've got something to fall back on.

I would say, across all sports and the fact that the USA is a far bigger country than Germany, Germany actually holds its own pretty well. They're probably a stronger sporting nation overall.

Stop the crazy kenyan wrote:

cpr wrote:

We have a better system in Germany for aspiring world-class athletes:

- they get employed by the Federal Border Guards, police or army

What about those who don't want to be a border guard, policewomen or soldier?

Combining sports and a university education in Germany is way harder than in the US

That used to be a minority combination anyways.

Only the last 25 years saw an increase in the qualification for university from 30 to 50% of each age cohort. We don't need that many university-educated workforce, but that's another topic.

To start with, an aspiring athlete can be perfectly "educated" for the job market at age 19, thanks to the "Dual System" combining training-on-the-job and school-education. Many "blue-collar-athletes" take that route, and are "skilled workforce" even before maturing as an athlete. Plenty of second-tier athletes with that CV, too. Doesn't make the real good ones ineligible to join the police et al. at a later time either.

The ever-growing percentage with a "school education qualifying for university" has a decision to make at about age 18. They could enter the same job education programs as after 10 years of school, or go to university indeed. To combine university and sports is admittedly harder than in the US, no intertwined schedules.

People in the US can hardly comprehend the gravity of health insurance and the social system.

Not only is our "Dual System" the best to produce qualified workforce, but as a side effect an athlete may pursue education and a sports career without mixing one with the other. All being "insured". That's nothing we mess about with.

nah the system with police or army is more or less for people, who dont want to study while competing. But KK is currently studying in cologne. So the american system wouldnt be that bad for the her. Still think the support is better in germany. The USA is just more successful because its bigger and a lot of poor people will try everything to become good runners to go to university. There is no need to do that in germany, because university is free either way

Sorry lemme fix all that wrote:

Obviously an age cheat or she's doping. Oh wait she's white, she's perfect.

Obviously from a first-world country with accurate record-keeping, must be punished by competing with fully-mature women.