The biggest doping scandal of all time

...that's saying quite a lot when we consider the Kenyans, rosas, and aden group....and that is just this year....

Fraudulent WADA accredited laboratories is a completely different level of corruption.

This is truly astonishing.

It is all true!

Bloody hell

Yelena Isinbayeva was certainly part of the doping program.

https://twitter.com/Sport_Integrity/status/755037548628545536

A minimum of 643 positive tests were covered up!

https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/755036884300996610

1000 wrote:

“McLaren said last month that his preliminary findings supported allegations that the Russian sports ministry was involved in manipulating test results before, during and after the track and field world championships in Moscow in 2013.”

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/russia-doping-mclaren-report-1.3683450

BALCO

Isinbayeva is the biggest, most arrogant liar in all of this. Comes with being Putin's bedmate.

McClaren said "this," McClaren said "that." I'm glad the Russians are closer to being punished for their doping program. On the other hand, this guy, Richard McClaren, was one of 3 CAS judges who handed down the Dutee Chand/Caster Semenya ruling. How fvcked is that? McClaren had a major role in destroying the integrity of womens 800 meters. He's the Jerry Lewis of Sport, the nutty law professor who gave Semenya the go-ahead to steal from legitimate female athletes. That McClaren is the guy the IOC would put in charge of investigating the Russians only shows how little regard they have for athletes.

I was wrong that the IOC commissioned McClaren. It was WADA. But that changes nothing about the absurdity of McClaren's recent work.

"Russia should be barred from Olympics, WADA board says"

http://espn.go.com/olympics/story/_/id/17099712/world-anti-doping-agency-executive-board-calls-full-russian-ban-rio-olympics

chilhowee wrote:

McClaren said "this," McClaren said "that." I'm glad the Russians are closer to being punished for their doping program. On the other hand, this guy, Richard McClaren, was one of 3 CAS judges who handed down the Dutee Chand/Caster Semenya ruling. How fvcked is that? McClaren had a major role in destroying the integrity of womens 800 meters. He's the Jerry Lewis of Sport, the nutty law professor who gave Semenya the go-ahead to steal from legitimate female athletes. That McClaren is the guy the IOC would put in charge of investigating the Russians only shows how little regard they have for athletes.

Different matter altogether.

The former requires you to exclude/discriminate due to the fact that you are not happy about the way that a particular athlete was born.

The later relates to state wide doping cover up

Completely different.

In one case, you would be requiring an athlete such as Caster to take drugs, which may lead her to get cancer...

In the other case, you don't want athletes to take drugs, which may lead them to get cancer...

Actually, if you are requiring Caster to take drugs, while disallowing others to take them because of health issues, then you are really talking from 2 ends at once...

I'm kinda happy that Caster Semenya will be in Rio - at least I can believe that there is one gold medal athlete who is not doping.

McLaren was Chand's selection to the Panel. Shows her confidence in him.

Deep thoughts, "Fgh" person.

Ethics are obviously not your concern. You think it's cool, apparently, that 3 lawyers in a castle somewhere can issue a ruling that undoes years of striving by legitimate female athletes. It's okay, in your view, to throw out world champions like Eunice Sum and force all other females to compete against individuals who are not female and who possess an unfair advantage (internal testes and male testosterone ranges) which equals increased strength and speed.

The accident of Semenya's birth (an event less likely to occur in western countries due to lower rates of consanguinity) does not guarantee Semenya a right to compete against actual women. The IAAF's program to lower Semenya's testosterone through medication was an attempt to preserve the integrity of the women's 800 and allow intersex athletes like Semenya (who has testes but no uterus) a chance to compete. Now McClaren and his incompetent cronies at the CAS have, ridiculously, chosen to oppress the majority in favor of the few. It's a mystery why you have such little regard for the talent and hard work of female athletes like Ajee Wilson, Melissa Bishop, or Eunice Sum. Maybe you can explain why you identify so strongly with an intersex individual who is clearly reveling in her dumb luck, who has no qualms with taking Diamond League money from actual females, many of whom were Olympic medal contenders up until just recently, when McClaren & crew made a farce of women's sport. (What a sick joke that he gets hired to "reform" things now.)

Some commentators have said that Semenya is "not to blame," and "should not be blamed" for a situation that the CAS created, but these speakers want us to think that Semenya has no moral consciousness or sense of right and wrong about the powerful and uniquely unjust present she was given when the CAS stopped her required medication. She's jogging 1:55's from the second lane, dropping final 100's in the range of ~13 seconds and turning around and wanting to shake hands like everything's normal and fine? As if her absurd recent improvement is nothing but good hard training? She's a thief and a cretin and undeserving of anyone's sympathy.

"...of all time"?

1) Isn't this very much like the doping regimes of the Eastern Bloc countries before the collapse of their political system? Doping by the state instead of the more free enterprise approach we see in the west?

2) If Russian doping was so widespread how come there were so few positive tests from the London games? We were told that the testing regime was so accurate and precise that it would be virtually impossible to dope and get away with it.

3) My memory is genuinely a bit hazy here, but aren't there stories about positive (or potentially positive) sample being destroyed at the LA games in 1984?

mark b wrote:

"...of all time"?

1) Isn't this very much like the doping regimes of the Eastern Bloc countries before the collapse of their political system? Doping by the state instead of the more free enterprise approach we see in the west?

2) If Russian doping was so widespread how come there were so few positive tests from the London games? We were told that the testing regime was so accurate and precise that it would be virtually impossible to dope and get away with it.

3) My memory is genuinely a bit hazy here, but aren't there stories about positive (or potentially positive) sample being destroyed at the LA games in 1984?

1: yes

2: obviously PR from IAAF + WADA

3: yes

As for the 70s and 80s, check this out for a comparison of East vs. West (here: Germany):

... and how Germany kept the GDR's doping coaches and athletes after the reunion (e.g., Springstein: Krabbe, Breuer, Möller; Sager: Ullrich).

Note that that article was from 2007, and lots of fears expressed therein turned out to be correct.

This is the biggest doping scandal of all time.

Before this scandal, the East Germany doping program was the biggest scandal by far, but East Germany did not rig the official doping laboratories during several major tournaments!

This scandal dwarfs all others by a mile!

I have always said that practically all elite athletes are corrupt, but I have never gone as far as to say WADA accredited anti-doping laboratories were also corrupt.

I have heard the rumours about WADA laboratories, but there was no real evidence to support these rumours.

The claims of Grigory Rodchenkov have been PROVEN to be true.

I think some people have not fully grasped what has just happened.

Trust in WADA Accredited Laboratories has just plummeted.