I'm at a strictly pole vault meet tonight and they are giving the elite group over an hour to warmup. All of the drunks are getting impatient. Does it really take over an hour for a pole vaulter to warmup?
I'm at a strictly pole vault meet tonight and they are giving the elite group over an hour to warmup. All of the drunks are getting impatient. Does it really take over an hour for a pole vaulter to warmup?
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It wouldn't, but since everyone has to get their warm up on the same pit, the taking turns is what makes the warm ups take so long.
A lot has to be on for a successful jump. Take off in the correct spot, correct pole, grip, and standard placement, for example.
An off first jump in competition isn't a huge deal, but you don't want to be making more than one adjustment at a time, and switching poles within a height is difficult for that reason.
Some vaulters do take too many warm jumps.
Thanks for supporting pole vaulters! Wish I was at the meet to watch as well.
It takes an hour for most runners to warmu up for a track race.
And they aren't using as many muscles for their event.
Star wrote:
It takes an hour for most runners to warmu up for a track race.
And they aren't using as many muscles for their event.
This is a good point, but I think the OP was talking about only the time the runway was open immediately before the comp. The vaulters would have been warming up prior to that time, and also during the competition, especially if they pass a height or two.
Then there are the people that can get away with a very short or no warm up, but I was never one of those. I will say that the best jumpers are able to keep their (pre-meet) warm ups short since they may need to handle a long competition.
I can detail a standard PV warmup for you if you'd like:
90 mins pre-comp - 5-6 minutes jogging/skipping, and 5 mins rolling/stretching etc
80 mins pre-comp - approximately 20 minutes of dynamic sprint drills (a-skip b-skip, dribbling, side skipping etc)
60 mins pre-comp - dynamic stretching and 1-2 x 30-40m hard sprint down runway with 3 mins between runs.
55 mins pre- comp - the actual vault warmup:
1) 2-3 very short-approach (approx 30-40 foot run-up) straight pole drills to warm up the shoulders, prepare body for takeoffs, feel out the plant box, etc
2) Put on spikes and perform 2-3 short-approach jumps with approximately 1' shorter and much softer pole than competition poles, from 60-70 feet run-up. This shows us how our body is moving that day, how the runway and box are feeling, and how much ground we are covering that day so that we can adjust our start mark accordingly.
(these two things ^ take approx 15 minutes)
3) Long approach warmup jumps. You want to have the time to take anywhere from 3-6 full-approach jumps in warmups to feel out the runway, your approach on that particular day, and figure out an appropriate starting mark that will work, the appropriate starting height and the correct starting pole for that day. For example, on a raised runway, your step may move back as much as 2-3' from on a flat runway due to the bounciness. We use a check-mark around 53-58 feet (depending on the vaulter) in order to most accurately tell us whether to move back or forward on that day. With a crowded competition (10-15 vaulters), you'll have as much as 6-8 minutes between warm-up jumps, so you really need time to get dialed in. I carry 6 poles for my full approach, and depending on the conditions, runway, etc, I might start the competition on the smallest, softest pole, or I might start as many as two poles bigger than that pole if I'm rolling and the conditions are good. It's the warm-up jumps that determine which pole will be correct for the first height, and which height to start at.
Then, the bar goes up and its game time!
Hope this helps.
Star wrote:
It takes an hour for most runners to warmu up for a track race.
And they aren't using as many muscles for their event.
I didn't know pole vaulters had more muscles in their bodies than runners.
breaking anatomy news wrote:
Star wrote:It takes an hour for most runners to warmu up for a track race.
And they aren't using as many muscles for their event.
I didn't know pole vaulters had more muscles in their bodies than runners.
Do runners have to use their triceps and shoulders for the push? What about biceps and lats while pulling? And the forearms are being used at all times during these actions. The rotation that requires all of the core?
breaking anatomy news wrote:
Star wrote:It takes an hour for most runners to warmu up for a track race.
And they aren't using as many muscles for their event.
I didn't know pole vaulters had more muscles in their bodies than runners.
Dumbest post of the day.
20 minutes of sprint drills??
In most situations vaulters can't even start warming up until their poles are checked by an official. This is usually after the scheduled start of the meet because must have a coach or official present to warm up (at the high school level, anyways) Where I coach depending on the number of athletes warm up time is usually 30- 45 minutes allowing for run throughs, steps, etc. I encourage my athletes to do other things to warm up in the grass, when the runway is unavailable.
PV anatomy wrote:
breaking anatomy news wrote:I didn't know pole vaulters had more muscles in their bodies than runners.
Do runners have to use their triceps and shoulders for the push? What about biceps and lats while pulling? And the forearms are being used at all times during these actions. The rotation that requires all of the core?
Yes. Every muscle in the body is in use when you run. Absolutely every little one of them. Even the jaw.
How long do you think it would take a group of 5k runners to warm up if they had to share a 50 meter stretch of 1 lane?
What about that eyelid one that twitches sometimes? I don't even train it. Need to get blink volume up to 89000 per day and maybe some eyelid speed work. PR here I come!
madmandoc wrote:
What about that eyelid one that twitches sometimes? I don't even train it. Need to get blink volume up to 89000 per day and maybe some eyelid speed work. PR here I come!
Your sphincter muscle produced that post.
I don't think the poster that brought up muscles was meaning that in a literal way.
Jeff Coover gave the correct answer!
Everybody needs to get on the runway, get their routine down, and get a couple vaults in to check their steps. You might argue that the long jumpers and triples jumpers do the same thing in less time. You'd be correct. However, once a long/triple jumper can gotten a step, all he needs is a coach or whomever to show him where he was on the board. The pole vaulter actually needs to step onto the runway and see where his grip is in relation to his plant. It's impossible to do this while not on the runway. So it takes more runway time.