How many high school boys have gone sub-9 and sub-1:50?

NOPE.

TrackCoach wrote:

Big 3 on the Farm wrote:

Jennings, Stember, Riley

Marty Liquori (I think he ran 8:59, but I am not sure.)

Grant Robinson

Sam Vazquez

John Richardson

Stephen Pifer

John Trautmann

Nope, only three (Webb, Cheserek and Hunter) have run sub nine for two miles and under 1:50 for 800 meters. The other three ran ~18 meters shot of two miles.

jsully13 wrote:

The answer is 6 (sub 1:50 for 800m & 9:00 for 2 Miles)

1:47.79 & 8:54.58c

Andres Arroyo, Colonial HS, Orlando, FL

1:49.98 & 8:39.15i

Edward Cheserek, St Benedict HS, Newark, NJ

1:49.89 & 8:58.54c

Craig Engels, Reagan HS, Pfafftown, NC

1:48.64 & 8:42.51

Drew Hunter, Loudoun Valley HS, Purcellville, VA

1:49.68 & 8:56.20c

Garrett O'Toole, Middlesex HS, Concord, MA

1:47.74 & 8:45.19i

Alan Webb, South Lakes HS, Reston, VA

c = converted 3200m, i = indoors

...short...

agreed. thank you (i'd be comfortable with arroyo on that list though)end of thread

.kitler. wrote:

Nope, only three (Webb, Cheserek and Hunter) have run sub nine for two miles and under 1:50 for 800 meters. The other three ran ~18 meters shot of two miles.

jsully13 wrote:

The answer is 6 (sub 1:50 for 800m & 9:00 for 2 Miles)

1:47.79 & 8:54.58c

Andres Arroyo, Colonial HS, Orlando, FL

1:49.98 & 8:39.15i

Edward Cheserek, St Benedict HS, Newark, NJ

1:49.89 & 8:58.54c

Craig Engels, Reagan HS, Pfafftown, NC

1:48.64 & 8:42.51

Drew Hunter, Loudoun Valley HS, Purcellville, VA

1:49.68 & 8:56.20c

Garrett O'Toole, Middlesex HS, Concord, MA

1:47.74 & 8:45.19i

Alan Webb, South Lakes HS, Reston, VA

c = converted 3200m, i = indoors

I went sub 1:50 as a soph and opened up a road race sub 9(died out my last mile and dnf'ed) my junior year but I never had the grades to run for my school. I used to run races unattached under different names.

Might be true wrote:

I went sub 1:50 as a soph and opened up a road race sub 9(died out my last mile and dnf'ed) my junior year but I never had the grades to run for my school. I used to run races unattached under different names.

Isn't true, Gerry.

rojo wrote:

think about it this way wrote:

Since you're probably reading this thread, why was the thread on David Torrence's progression deleted?

It was far from the most hostile thing on these boards. (See recent posts about Montano, dozens of posts about Lagat, everything ever about Rupp...)

Will you re-instate it, or at least explain was was wrong with looking at a period of dramatic improvement?

Cause the moderator deletes WAY more stuff than I would. I'll restore it. What was it called?

It was called something like "analyze David Torrence's progression here" ... it was a bit harsh and kind of making fun of his comments about Lagat, but really it was not so bad at all.

Thanks for taking a look.

Liquori, no? Essex Catholic High, Newark, N J.

NOPE, the above list is complete and accurate.

In summary, the only US citizens to run sub nine for two miles and sub 1:50 for 800 meters in high school are Webb and Hunter.

The others listed above are/were not US citizens and/or ran ~8:56.4 for 3200 meters.

Rojo is asking the following -

sub-9:00 3200m

sub-1:50 800m

If you want to do 2 mile, we might as well do 880 yards.

Keyboard sub 1:50 sub 9:00 wrote:

All time 2 mile list:

http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/nats/gods.htm

Hardly.

Holy F@ck are you stupid!

Only goes up to 2003....

wondering i am wrote:

Why is there an asterisk and parentheses next to Cheserek?

It's a bait for the race baiters.

NOPE.

Gvl wrote:

Rojo is asking the following -

sub-9:00 3200m

sub-1:50 800m

If you want to do 2 mile, we might as well do 880 yards.

Prelives13 wrote:

slagowski

Something like 9:14 for 3200. That's barely good enough for a lower level D1 mid-major or a decent maybe D2. He was dismissed by Hunter and his coach (they were too good to race him), and only ran 3:59 this year. Slag's something of a cult hero on letsrun but hardly worth consideration for those "in the know."

If you are going to convert, how about Drew Hunter's 3K that converts to 8:37-ish

9+1:50 wrote:

If you are going to convert, how about Drew Hunter's 3K that converts to 8:37-ish

Might even be 8:36, which indoor is really fantastic. Forgot how good he ran in the 3k. How many HSr's have ever run faster outdoors ? Only German and Verzbicas?

More importantly, Hunter is the only US high schooler to run under 1:50 for 800 and eight minutes for 3000 (and sub four).

9+1:50 wrote:

If you are going to convert, how about Drew Hunter's 3K that converts to 8:37-ish

think about it this way wrote:

rojo wrote:

Cause the moderator deletes WAY more stuff than I would. I'll restore it. What was it called?

It was called something like "analyze David Torrence's progression here" ... it was a bit harsh and kind of making fun of his comments about Lagat, but really it was not so bad at all.

Thanks for taking a look.

Is this the thread?