How many high school boys have gone sub-9 and sub-1:50?

Flagpole wrote:

Keyboard sub 1:50 sub 9:00 wrote:

All time 2 mile list:

http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/nats/gods.htm

Super outdated.

Yet, the information listed is still correct.

Willie's Flagpole wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Super outdated.

Yet, the information listed is still correct.

He had a good list but there seemed to be some confusion on the 3200/2 mile front. Some runners getting in with 8:58 3200s, while others at 9:00 for 2 mile being "docked" 3 seconds and only making the "honorable mention" list (e.g., credited with 9:03 2 mile, instead of the 9:00 that they actually ran).

Who done it wrote:

No one wants to know who could have done it

Exactly. On letsrun, a thread titled "Who has done X?" will inevitably become a pages-upon-pages compilation of people who did NOT do X.

Jim Spivey - 1:50.x for 880y and 9:00.x for 2 miles

Alan Webb

Edward Cheserek* (Kenyan)

Craig Engels

Andrew Arroyo

Garrett O'Toole

Drew Hunter

rojo never specified 3200m or two miles. if the assumption is yards, why aren't converting to 880y times? I say Spivey is in.

I also say Lukezic is in or an honorable mention:

1:49.4 - 800m split in HSR 4x800m - 6/10ths is healthy margin for conversion for a "split"

8:57.01 - 3200m at WA 4A state meet as a JR to take 2nd to the great wonder of Michael Kiter

Canadians Kevin Sullivan and Nate Brannen deserve honorable mentions for achieving north of the border.

This thread was a previous iteration of what we're squabbling about here -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3696932

verzbicas definitely did

In correct. Would also get an * if he did, but he didn't

But this is Letsrun. Surely the most obvious way people's dreams become reality on this site is that for every time that someone posts there are a dozen people ready and willing to tell you what it's actually "worth" given the heat, humidity, slow opening pace, fast opening pace, wind, lack of wind, hills, lack of shade, competition, or lack of competition.Pretty sure my 4:01.1 1500m on a 125m banked board track is now a 3:54.

rojo wrote:

I'm not asking who was capable of doing it- just who did it.

farts wrote:

verzbicas definitely did

nope

Bile broke 1:50 at NBON in June of his Sr year. Don't know if that counts as HS. I think it should.

He didn't run a 3200 in HS, but was a consistent 4:08 1600m guy as a Sr and was 12th at Foot Locker, so he was almost certainly able to break 9.

http://parser.dyestat.com/search.jsp?athID=139134

McGorty will destroy 9:00 as he appears to be at least as talented as his brother.

Sub nine two mile or 8:56.4 3200 count, no honorable mentions.

Dr. Steve Brule wrote:

Jim Spivey - 1:50.x for 880y and 9:00.x for 2 miles

Alan Webb

Edward Cheserek* (Kenyan)

Craig Engels

Andrew Arroyo

Garrett O'Toole

Drew Hunter

rojo never specified 3200m or two miles. if the assumption is yards, why aren't converting to 880y times? I say Spivey is in.

I also say Lukezic is in or an honorable mention:

1:49.4 - 800m split in HSR 4x800m - 6/10ths is healthy margin for conversion for a "split"

8:57.01 - 3200m at WA 4A state meet as a JR to take 2nd to the great wonder of Michael Kiter

Canadians Kevin Sullivan and Nate Brannen deserve honorable mentions for achieving north of the border.

This thread was a previous iteration of what we're squabbling about here -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3696932

Fixed it.

farts wrote:

verzbicas definitely did not

Big 3 on the Farm wrote:

Jennings, Stember, Riley

Marty Liquori (I think he ran 8:59, but I am not sure.)

Grant Robinson

Sam Vazquez

John Richardson

Stephen Pifer

John Trautmann

coach d. wrote:

Sub nine two mile or 8:56.4 3200 count, no honorable mentions.

Tough crowd.

But we all know that anyone (females included) slower than 13:30 (13:00 for Africans) is a slow jogger; income less than $400K/year is poor trash, education not at Ivy or maybe 5 other schools (e.g., STEM at Stanford, MIT, U. Chicago, Johns Hopkins) should just give it up and move Mumbai and start begging in the streets.

Dam wright! This is Letsrun!

This list is incomplete, It is kinda old. Have you seen Arcadia 2010

John Richardson did not break 9 minutes in HS. Rarely ran 3200.

Pulling from my database now.

fyi

There are 183 that have broken 1:50 for 800 (including converted 880y).

There are 412 that have broken 9:00 for 2 Miles (including converted 3200m under the equivalent 8:56.87). There are another 239 who have broken 9:00 for 3200m (including equiv 2 Miles) so that's 651 total under 9:00 3200m/9:03.16 2 Miles.

cyclism wrote:

McGorty will destroy 9:00 as he appears to be at least as talented as his brother.

Probably doesn't even run a 3200m

The answer is 6 (sub 1:50 for 800m & 9:00 for 2 Miles)

1:47.79 & 8:54.58c

Andres Arroyo, Colonial HS, Orlando, FL

1:49.98 & 8:39.15i

Edward Cheserek, St Benedict HS, Newark, NJ

1:49.89 & 8:58.54c

Craig Engels, Reagan HS, Pfafftown, NC

1:48.64 & 8:42.51

Drew Hunter, Loudoun Valley HS, Purcellville, VA

1:49.68 & 8:56.20c

Garrett O'Toole, Middlesex HS, Concord, MA

1:47.74 & 8:45.19i

Alan Webb, South Lakes HS, Reston, VA

c = converted 3200m, i = indoors