Alysia Montano - the bottom line!

This is absurd wrote:

Surely you saw how hard Alisia was running down the stretch, so hard that she fell down several times on the Nbc broadcast. In fact her 3:06.77 only missed her pregnancy time by a little bit, a half minute or so, or a little bit more then that. I'm pretty she was running really hard.

She finished about 30 seconds faster when she was 8 months pregnant. A 3+ minute time was not a bona fide effort for someone of her abilities.

She was a favorite to make the team. Montano beat every girl in that race except Martinez and Ajee because they haven't raced each other. Alysia pulled away from Grace at Pre pretty easy this year.

I didn't even know this was still being debated. We talked to Hawi Keflezighi (Martinez's agent) as well as Josh Cox (Grace's agent). They both said the same thing.

Rogers moved out and nicked Martinez leg at the top of it's backswing which caused Martinez to lose her balance and do a cartwheel and slow down which resulted in Montano (whow said she had purposedly slowed down from 200 to 150 but was planning on going hard the last 150) plowing into her behind.

https://youtu.be/xBPYeyvzLfs

Cox told me they had like 6 different camera angles on it in the camera tent and that's what happened.

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http://www.letsrun.com/forum/f...z4Dl2wdzv3

That's now three agents who have said that Montano was not at fault. Grace, Martinez and Montano.

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7450615&page=1#ixzz4Dl51cyEw

I am not going to assign blame to anyone, we'll never know concretely how it all started and went down.

But, I do want to point out that relying on information from any of the runners is foolish. Eye witnesses are historically terrible at getting details correct. The same is true here. They may say they felt this or that, but in reality what they perceive to have happened may not have been true. Montano thought she was in lane three and she wasn't. That is an example of what I'm talking about.

Anyone that has run the 800 meters probably has a story where they finished the race, looked down and saw blood and didn't realize until just then that, "Hey I must've been spiked". I can't tell you how many times I've been spiked and didn't feel it in the moment.

My point is the whole thing happened so fast that to ask the runners what happened and expect factual answers from their perceptions is foolish.

I didn't even know this was still being debated. In other words I was totally stupid but here's the real story.

I talked with God, George Bush, and Mahatma Ghandi who all had great views and said the same thing, that it was Martinez` fault, because she thrust her foot back several times, it kept getting incidentally got caught under Montano's shoe, and she caused Montano to shove her right out of the race.

Also Martinez made Montano crawl down the home stretch afterwards, made her keep falling down and acting like a bumbling idiot. Not only that but she made her go out really fast and then keep slowing down, and that's why she only ran 3:06.77. Thus it is all Martinez` fault that Montano did all these things.

You can get more information at this link.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/f...z4Dl2wdzv3

This is absurd wrote:

Surely you saw how hard Alisia was running down the stretch, so hard that she fell down several times on the Nbc broadcast. In fact her 3:06.77 only missed her pregnancy time by a little bit, a half minute or so, or a little bit more then that. I'm pretty she was running really hard.

The result stands wrote:

She finished about 30 seconds faster when she was 8 months pregnant. A 3+ minute time was not a bona fide effort for someone of her abilities.

How can you say such a thing? Alisia was obviously running all out down the stretch, which is why Nbc televised her amazing effort, and she was totally exhausted at the finish. That she managed to run as fast as she did was totally amazing, considering the trying circumstances!

Weight coach wrote:

You can see Rogers' right leg was in the path of Martinez' left leg coming forward. Rogers and Martinez are extremely close. Montano is to the right and behind nowhere near Martinez' left leg

After watching the video I was sure it was Montano, but the still picture confirms what you just stated.

Montano might have run a very dumb race, might have been overly theatrical at the end, but that doesn't mean she was at fault in the collision.

Disagree.

Running in the outside of lane one...for 600meters....

She wanted this to happen, she ran with arms wide and tries to find contact.

She is clearly a disturbed person.

The last 100m was an indulgent director at nbc who caught the ridiculousness of a mad woman getting her 15 seconds of fame.

Weight coach Montano wrote:

You can see Rogers' right leg was in the path of Martinez' left leg coming forward. Rogers and Martinez are extremely close. Montano is to the right and behind nowhere near Martinez' left leg

This has already been repeated ad nauseum, which anyone but a fool can see, that Montano was directly behind Martinez in the photo you posted, the stride right after she stepped on her foot. No other runner was affected at this point, until Montano kept running into them all. This is also obvious from the video.

All you're doing is proving your as delusional as Montano, and maybe you're her.

You can post this as much as you want...and it still does not account for Ajee Wilson's comment that she was clipped from behind...and the only one who was that close, was Brenda.

Brenda hit / brushed Ajee first, thigh to thigh, causing Ajee's right leg backswing to swing to the inside, and her hip to turn ever so slightly...and causing more of a problem for Brenda etc.

You can see this by watching the video with a piece of paper covering all the runners but Ajee and Brenda.

The other contacts are more dramatic, so they distract the eye. The first contact was to Ajee, by Brenda.

Ergo, Ajee's quote about it, long before she even saw the video of the race.

What is wrong with you WUSSES? She ran like a Freshman in high school, clearly was not going to make the team and panicked. That display after the fall was classless and infantile. A grown a$$ woman and veteran of the track going out like that? What poise, what pride... What a joke.

Her reaction seemed a bit over the top but I can understand her feeling having her dream shattered. At the other extreme Brenda Martinez acted very stoically and nonchalantly about having her dream shattered. Different personalities, different reactions, both brilliant athletes. You are we to judge how one reacts to failure.