Crammie just being interviewed on BBC and suggests whole Aden group should be banned by association in the same way Russia has been even if it sweeps up innocents (if there are any).
Crammie just being interviewed on BBC and suggests whole Aden group should be banned by association in the same way Russia has been even if it sweeps up innocents (if there are any).
Good on you, Cram. Expunge the lot of them. The only confounding factors are Mo's entanglement and Coe's British influence.
At the very least, every athlete who has trained with Aden should be tested right away, multiple days in a row.
I would have no problem with this. If you were part of the group and registered at the hotel you should be banned
For anybody not taking (unlikely) you are still guilty for not doing anything to expose it, and not leaving the group/training site.
The same Aden who works with Barry Fudge and Mo Farah? Yeah ban anyone associated with him.
Not sure the legal ramifications, but if they have used syringes with blood on them could they not do a DNA test on the blood to see who used the syringe? And ban the lot of them that way?
There are no innocents there. We're talking about one group that is all being doped by the coach. That's not even analogous to a country.
testing may catch some, but it's obvious that police actions are the only way to get a handle on the problem.
kvothe wrote:
At the very least, every athlete who has trained with Aden should be tested right away, multiple days in a row.
Too late.
jjjjjj wrote:
testing may catch some, but it's obvious that police actions are the only way to get a handle on the problem.
imagine if drug bans were served in prison
Come on steve wrote:
The same Aden who works with Barry Fudge and Mo Farah? Yeah ban anyone associated with him.
fine with me. Give them 4 years, next time they'll know to vet coaches they use or if dirty, serve as an example to other would be unscrupulous people.
I would ban all Ethiopians from Rio. Looking at the meldonium farce and the Jama Aden debacle it is clear that, like the Russians, most elite Ethiopians are using PEDs.
Funny how none of his athletes leave the group after the bust/arrest. Very telling. They all know damn well what's going on. All pure (no pun) cheating scum, taking away opportunities for clean athletes. Don't be naive, Mo Farah knows everything too and is as dirty as Adens athletes. Guaranteed.
Come on steve wrote:
The same Aden who works with Barry Fudge and Mo Farah? Yeah ban anyone associated with him.
Cram wont rest until he gets the record back
Like to go back and drug test Crammie in his prime
Look at em wrote:
Like to go back and drug test Crammie in his prime
Cram was tested loads of times and there is no evidence of suggestion from the trajectory and progression of his career that he doped.
ISBN wrote:
Look at em wrote:Like to go back and drug test Crammie in his prime
Cram was tested loads of times and there is no evidence of suggestion from the trajectory and progression of his career that he doped.
He was not tested as much as Lance for sure.
World age best at 17 suggests he was plenty talented and Olympics at 19, not too many drugs floating around Jarrow in 1977! Just the odd glue sniffer!
Jarrasparra wrote:
not too many drugs floating around Jarrow in 1977! Just the odd glue sniffer!
Unfortunately, history suggests otherwise (amphetamines + steroids + blood transfusions):
http://sportsanddrugs.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000017https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_sport#HistoryAgree with Cram on this one, especially in the case of David Torrence, who we now know was a doper AND a snitch!
People bringing up Farah though don't quite get it. His coach is Cuban-American Alberto Salazar, former winner of the New York marathon. Farah has practiced with runners from Aden's stable, but he belongs to the Nike Oregon Project (NOP) in Portland.
Snitch Torrence needs locking up. His got nothing on the Aden group except for vitamin shots? Give me a break!