Helpful advice giver wrote:
They should probably just build a bridge so people don't have to swim towards the end of the race.
My humble .02
Well, we here at LRC are all about building bridges, aren't we?
Helpful advice giver wrote:
They should probably just build a bridge so people don't have to swim towards the end of the race.
My humble .02
Well, we here at LRC are all about building bridges, aren't we?
8FE wrote:
I hope Walmsley doesn't waste his talent with this race again next year. It does NOTHING for him. $0. Nada. Just an ego thing. Now that it's done, move on.
Walmsley can run 2:12 or better for the marathon, and in a crappy, hard race like an Olympic or World Championship like Rio or Barcelona or something hillier and harder, he could be up there with the Africans and be making six figures each year.
He should go to Europe and make some noise.
Contrast that with you just making a lot of noise in your mom's basement.
They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast marathoners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, marathoners are a bunch of old, slow hobby joggers and walkers...[/quote]
Over 4 hour average time.
DontBelieve wrote:
Walmsley pre race interview wrote:Interesting interview
http://www.irunfar.com/2016/06/jim-walmsley-pre-2016-western-states-100-interview.html(LRC mention at 16:30)
They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast ultrarunners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, ultrarunners are a bunch of old, slow hobby joggers and walkers...
While it's true that the top ultrarunners are not fast enough to make national teams on the track or in the marathon, every runner at WS is much fitter than the vast majority of marathon runners.
I would say that completing WS in the required time requires 3:30 marathon fitness at a minimum. While I'm sure this is hobby jogging to everyone on the board, a lot of these people are middle-aged. We have seen how people like Sage and Laney can blow up on the course, so don't underestimate how difficult it is to get to the finish line.
How dare you wrote:
Crikey heat 100 wrote:JW 20th place. Got beat out by one more runner by 30 seconds or so. But he's finally done.
He was 19th, not 20th.
http://www.ultralive.net/ws100#tracking/menhttp://www.ultralive.net/ws100#tracking/women
No, he was 20th. Kaci beat him. He's 19th male, 20th overall.
ewasd-fo-dx wrote:
Jeez, can you be an ultra runner and not look like that?
I've been around you Track Bro types long enough to know which group of runners I'd rather be around.
Howard Dean wrote:
ewasd-fo-dx wrote:Jeez, can you be an ultra runner and not look like that?
I've been around you Track Bro types long enough to know which group of runners I'd rather be around.
I'm guessing you sport a mullet.
sert wrote:
DontBelieve wrote:They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast ultrarunners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, ultrarunners are a bunch of old, slow hobby joggers and walkers...
While it's true that the top ultrarunners are not fast enough to make national teams on the track or in the marathon, every runner at WS is much fitter than the vast majority of marathon runners.
I would say that completing WS in the required time requires 3:30 marathon fitness at a minimum. While I'm sure this is hobby jogging to everyone on the board, a lot of these people are middle-aged. We have seen how people like Sage and Laney can blow up on the course, so don't underestimate how difficult it is to get to the finish line.
a hem if you're gonna call out both Sage and Laney for blowing up you have to call out Walmsley, sage beat him and it took Walmsley 5 hours to move 10 miles to the finish. That's the biggest blow up of the three racers.
Picking up crowns wrote:
The Scot wrote:https://www.strava.com/activities/621139926Helpful advice giver wrote:
The crash and burn was worth it considering he picked up all those Strava Segment crowns earlier in the race.
What are segment crowns?
Commonly known as KOMs (King of the mountains) signified with a crown symbol.
Helpful advice giver wrote:
I've been around you Track Bro types long enough to know which group of runners I'd rather be around.
I'm guessing you sport a mullet.[/quote]
Nope. I keep it short, less work in the morning when I roll out of bed.
Defend_yourself wrote:
Every year that winner interview is probably viewed by few people ... the background noise and echo are very unprofessional.
They need a better microphone, with a filter for the noise.
I agree with this wrote:
Defend_yourself wrote:Every year that winner interview is probably viewed by few people ... the background noise and echo are very unprofessional.
They need a better microphone, with a filter for the noise.
Well, then donate to the guys who did the interview video and posted it free. Or, next year buy the equipment for perfect audio/video and volunteer to do the interview yourself.
Dick Puke wrote:
How dare you wrote:He was 19th, not 20th.
http://www.ultralive.net/ws100#tracking/menhttp://www.ultralive.net/ws100#tracking/womenNo, he was 20th. Kaci beat him. He's 19th male, 20th overall.
Kaci was 14th overall, awesome running for her.
DontBelieve wrote:
They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast ultrarunners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, ultrarunners are a bunch of old, slow hobby joggers and walkers...
Actually, much faster than most people at major marathons.
What's the comparison wrote:
DontBelieve wrote:They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast ultrarunners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, ultrarunners are a bunch of old, slow hobby joggers and walkers...
Actually, much faster than most people at major marathons.
Distance Runners, not Ultra Runners, gives making themselves look foolish.
DontBelieve > Revised Post
They seem to be implying that there are fit, fast distance runners.
We've pretty much proved there that this isn't true, distance runners are a bunch of skinny, anemic glorified joggers who can't sprint, and look like midgets next to real 100/200/400m runners...
sert wrote:
While it's true that the top ultrarunners are not fast enough to make national teams on the track or in the marathon....
This isn't true. Magda was an Olympian in the marathon and been on several World XC Teams. I was on the 2011 PanAm Team in the marathon. Max K has been on XC World Teams and was a national level steepler (made National teams?). Lots of Olympic Trials qualifiers in the marathon.
I would say that completing WS in the required time requires 3:30 marathon fitness at a minimum. While I'm sure this is hobby jogging to everyone on the board, a lot of these people are middle-aged. We have seen how people like Sage and Laney can blow up on the course, so don't underestimate how difficult it is to get to the finish line.
Out of curiosity, I looked up 71 year old Gunhild Swanson's recent road times- she was just under the 30 hr cutoff for WSs last yr and runs around 4:15-45 for a road marathon. She's in a league of her own!
Good point, Sert should have said, ultrarunners are not fast enough "anymore" to make national teams in the marathon or on the track.
Props to all who finished Western States though, terrific accomplishment in my opinion. Very deserving of many accolades. However, no one that had even a slim shot of making the US Olympic team in 2016 would be running in it.
I'm sure there are some examples of runners that dabbled in ultras who have made some of the more obscure national teams but that was probably only due to many of the higher qualifiers turning the spot down (like how we were down to the 15th or so best qualifiers for the most recent Pan Am games marathon.)
Helpful advice giver wrote:
Good point, Sert should have said, ultrarunners are not fast enough "anymore" to make national teams in the marathon or on the track.
Props to all who finished Western States though, terrific accomplishment in my opinion. Very deserving of many accolades. However, no one that had even a slim shot of making the US Olympic team in 2016 would be running in it.
I'm sure there are some examples of runners that dabbled in ultras who have made some of the more obscure national teams but that was probably only due to many of the higher qualifiers turning the spot down (like how we were down to the 15th or so best qualifiers for the most recent Pan Am games marathon.)
Wait until they put an ultra in the Olympics. Probably see the 100k by 2024.
Progress is coming wrote:
Helpful advice giver wrote:Good point, Sert should have said, ultrarunners are not fast enough "anymore" to make national teams in the marathon or on the track.
Props to all who finished Western States though, terrific accomplishment in my opinion. Very deserving of many accolades. However, no one that had even a slim shot of making the US Olympic team in 2016 would be running in it.
I'm sure there are some examples of runners that dabbled in ultras who have made some of the more obscure national teams but that was probably only due to many of the higher qualifiers turning the spot down (like how we were down to the 15th or so best qualifiers for the most recent Pan Am games marathon.)
Wait until they put an ultra in the Olympics. Probably see the 100k by 2024.
i agree that if Ultrarunning was added to the Olympics, then some ultrarunners will definitely make the Olympic team. This is very astute.
Similar to how with Race Walking in the Olympics, Race Walkers are able to make the US Olympic Team.
ewasd-fo-dx wrote:
Similar to how with Race Walking in the Olympics, Race Walkers are able to make the US Olympic Team.
Similar to how the track 10k is always on the event elimination chopping block. Who wants to watch 23 laps of hobby jogging followed by a super slow 800m run.
The Track 10k = hobby jogging + slow 800m