BREAKING:Jama Aden's hotel in Spain raided.

agip wrote:30 tests per month isn't insignificant.

For Q3, 2015 there were 34 IAAF tests for three months, all in competition and likely urinalysis.

A vague average of 10-15 IAAF tests in competition tests per month. Out of competition, is focused on months January->June, then less than one a month for the other 6 months.

No, I'm not racist. What I'm saying is, my claim and your response are analogous to the claim that black people in the US get prosecuted for small drug infractions more frequently than white people (for example; I know this was true in the past, and likely still is). You could respond by saying, hey, if black people get caught with drugs, then they're guilty, and that's that.

But it's not that simple. If everybody is doing it, but only certain groups of people are being targeted, that is not the same as justice.

Today I almost bought some nike shoes but I don't want to support doping...

Losing faith fast in the sport.

Fast Dude Runner wrote:

Renato Casanova (coach) wrote:

This has been the news reported about, quiet few media now in news. Let explain my view of point on this situationa.

First, this is only about coach, not runner Dibaba. Dibaba all naturalle, if you know what I mean.

She train altitude at high metres, what that means can anyone who understands, understand. Blood lipid profiles, more viscosity, faster acceleration, but - this only for ATHLETA who raised born at altitude. Dibaba, e.g. QED.

Now after the fact, she fastest female runner (and I mean double-x) all of sudden other athlete and association jealeous, not want her run fastly.

When the sun set at end of day, there won't be things but dust. Those dust will settel into wind and then she will be still - best athleta.

This doesn't explain anything. WTF?

I'm afraid this chap doesn't know English

Um, I kinda think like that too.

But it's rather like telling the sample switched Russians, the barely tested Kenyans, Ethiopians, and Jamaicans that what they did ain't the right way to dope. Too much too obvious. And NOT FAIR for the other countries that actually commit regular drug testings. Doping should be done in a much more subtle way in complex micro dosing regimens, as heavily invested by the western countries.

Now, we all know that after the ban of the Russians, and busts of Kenyans and now many top Ethiopians, the chance for the Olympic metals in Athletics for the US has just been greatly exalted.

Wow, circumstantial evidence to be sure, but lying about your location so you can spend some time with a doper doesn't look good.

LetsRun.com wrote:

We have a new story out today related to the Jama Aden raid.

Jama Aden Doping Raid Update: How Might The Raid Impact Mo Farah, The Dibabas and Nike?

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/06/jama-aden-doping-raid-update-might-raid-impact-mo-farah-dibabas-nike/

Today, we look at some of the connections between Aden and the sport's biggest names like Genzebe Dibaba, Tirunesh Dibaba, Mo Farah, and Nike and wonder what type of impact, if any, the scandal will have on them. We also reveal for the first time in the English press that Mo Farah trained in Sansabell, Spain in 2014, a fact his agent didn't even know, but claimed to be more than 100 miles away in France. Why?

Hopefully this helps get this thread back on track.

With Russia and now Adan's group we have arguably two of the biggest doping stories in athletic's history within the past ten months.

Both of these were due to investigations and tips; this cements the fact even further that doped athletes simply are not testing positive (which before you could argue was a bit hearsay (at least in vast numbers)). The science of testing is improving, but it's simply too easy to not dope at this point (this is not isolated in athletics, obviously).

Weldon/Robert - well I agree that 'innocent until proven guilty' is a nice way to phrase things - remember, these athletes are not being investigated or charged - they are being drug tested - and right now, in most countries, doping in sport is not illegal. If this were a crime, they would have been arrested along Aden yesterday. They are not being charge with anything.

Until international courts understand that doping in sport is a true crime, athletes wallow in the middle of neither being innocent or guilty -- even when CAS is brought into the fold.

Perhaps the best question in all of this is why are athletes allowing this to occur? There were THIRTY athletes in that hotel.

Why are other coaches standing by the wayside?

Why is our sport (and most of all sports) being bullied by some corrupt individuals time and time and time again?

I suppose the answer to most of this is greed (and fear). I certainly don't have a good answer, it's all very sobering. Somewhere along the line people compromise their principles. Morally, athletes give an inch - and suddenly it becomes a mile.

The ugly truth is that this is very, very bad, and more than likely, this is very, very bad in every sport. Especially when special interests or money is at stake.

Maybe Trump has a better answer.

Is it confirmed that gebresellasie is no longer on the juice?

This is big news if true

rekrunner wrote:

I'm always logical.

That's like a morbidly obese person saying they're always quite trim.

El Keniano wrote:

Yes. A bus load of third and fourth-tier Kenyans. Again, test all you want. Kenyan high schoolers will continue to be better runners than the best the British system can conjure up. That will never change.

STFU K wrote:

I'm going to politely invite you to Shut Up

So, shut up, already!

Wish LR had a friend's list. I'd add El Keniano immediately.

STFU K wrote:

Not to mention he's publically admitted to trolling his own board, to using other names and handles to stir things up; that he and his brother have baited each other under false handles to try and create a buzz on the board...or bait certain perceptions?

Sounds Like Trump wrote:

Sounds like what Trump is doing.

LetsRun.com wrote:

We've made up new story out today related to the Jama Aden raid.

Jama Aden Doping Raid Update: How Might The Raid Impact Mo Farah, The Dibabas and Nike?

We've made up a bunch of crap that isn't true, just to get you all excited, and especially to promote our personal agendas.

Mo farah is beyond suspicious at this stage

There is no way he doesnt know exactly what jama aden was up to and most likely was part of it

This is an incredibly weak story on the Farah connection. You guys generally do good work, but quit playing us for fools with your sensationalist garbage. If you started to dig just a little, it wouldn't be hard to make a connection between hundreds of clean athletes that have been on a track at the same time as Adens group or have had a picture with some of his stars. To start with, you clearly don't have any understanding of the Somali and Ethiopian culture of friendliness. Stick to the story at hand and sell the hell out of it. Your sideshow attraction on Farah is lame, however.

LetsRun.com wrote:

We have a new story out today related to the Jama Aden raid.

Jama Aden Doping Raid Update: How Might The Raid Impact Mo Farah, The Dibabas and Nike?

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/06/jama-aden-doping-raid-update-might-raid-impact-mo-farah-dibabas-nike/

Today, we look at some of the connections between Aden and the sport's biggest names like Genzebe Dibaba, Tirunesh Dibaba, Mo Farah, and Nike and wonder what type of impact, if any, the scandal will have on them. We also reveal for the first time in the English press that Mo Farah trained in Sansabell, Spain in 2014, a fact his agent didn't even know, but claimed to be more than 100 miles away in France. Why?

What's our current list of most coped countries by rank -

1. USA

2. Russia

3. Turkey

4. Kenya

5. Ethiopia

6. GBR

7. Spain

8. Germany

9. Morocco

10. South Africa

You forgot Jamaica.

Great call. Most doped countries -

1. USA

2. Russia

3. Turkey

4. Jamaica

5. Kenya

6. Ethiopia

7. GBR

8. Spain

9. Germany

10. South Africa

Morocco

Morocco