BREAKING:Jama Aden's hotel in Spain raided.

Our first of many articles about the Aden doping raid is now published:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/06/everything-need-know-jama-aden-doping-raid-took-place-three-dibaba-sisters-present/

Monday Track Talk wrote:

Sabado Gigante wrote:

That picture of Farah with his quote underneath that I see is from a Nike commercial/advert. Dibaba was not arrested- no athletes were. Her two sisters just showed up yesterday, in fact. Genzebe has supposedly been in Sabadell for at least 2 weeks. Interesting video of some of this year's camp. Drugs or no drugs, 400m repeats in 49/50 is pretty amazing:

https://youtu.be/qlrQ5qttmhY

I saw the quote, but I'm curious about the location the photo was taken in since the background is similar seasonally to Dibaba and the other guys working out he just posted. They are both tagged as Sabadell which is why I'm curious if Farah stopped by for the day and the photorgrapher snapped a photo of him.

You should contact him/her. Do you speak Spanish? If not, you can ask: "donde encontraste la foto de Mo Farah en su IG? Es suyo que sacaste?"

Rough translate: "Where did you find the picture of Mo Farah on your IG? Is it yours that you snapped?"

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Sabado Gigante wrote:

Monday Track Talk wrote:

I saw the quote, but I'm curious about the location the photo was taken in since the background is similar seasonally to Dibaba and the other guys working out he just posted. They are both tagged as Sabadell which is why I'm curious if Farah stopped by for the day and the photorgrapher snapped a photo of him.

You should contact him/her. Do you speak Spanish? If not, you can ask: "donde encontraste la foto de Mo Farah en su IG? Es suyo que sacaste?"

Rough translate: "Where did you find the picture of Mo Farah on your IG? Is it yours that you snapped?"

That pic is taken in Ethiopia few weeks for Nike's new Mo Farah comercial , save your time n effort

Okay, time for sleuths! Considering Tirunesh and Ejigayehu Dibaba, the elder sisters to Genzebe Dibaba are said to have showed up just a day or two before the raids, and since this is the first and only known(publicly) visit to the Aden's training group, is it possible that the two were informed of the impending raid and came to give moral support to their younger sister(and maybe take her home with them) knowing how devastated she would be when the raids finally take place? I am just curious... And if they knew of the impending raid, how long did they know? Maybe at least a week? Two weeks? Three? If they have known for quite a while, is it not possible they forewarned Genzebe to stop the doping regiment? Which means if they tested her with the rest of the athletes she must have passed(negative outcome)?

I don't understand this. How could a woman who over 1,500 meters is 50 meters better than the next two best athletes, and probably 80 meters better than the next two or three, possibly be guilty of doping?

Thanks for the summary. I don't know how any Aden athletes could compete this year (orlonger) even if the tests come back clean and aden says nothing. I could be surprised. I look forward to seeing how this plays out.I mainly want to hear about Dibaba and Souleiman. I would like to hear more about the Farah connection to the training group. The referenced connection to Salazar seems thin (shared a workout?) but perhaps there is more coming.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Our first of many articles about the Aden doping raid is now published:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/06/everything-need-know-jama-aden-doping-raid-took-place-three-dibaba-sisters-present/

YOu think the Spanish police called up Tiruneh in Ethiopia and tipped them off about the raid?

1) no way that happens

2) If that happened wouldn't someone tip of Jama so he could flush it down the toilet.

I do like how you are acknowledging we have no idea why they are there. I assume the older one (who won the 2011 Chicago marathon - i don't remember that at all) is totally retired. They could have been there to take her out as maybe they just heard Jama was dirty. They could have been there to dope themselves (odd for the retired one). They could have been there to site see (odd for Tirunesh with the Olympics coming up).

Just a reminder that we need to remember everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

rojo wrote:

[quote]I love my family wrote:

Just a reminder that we need to remember everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

Except if you're Russian...

Montesquieu wrote:

I don't understand this. How could a woman who over 1,500 meters is 50 meters better than the next two best athletes, and probably 80 meters better than the next two or three, possibly be guilty of doping?

1) Faith Kipyegon is managed by Jos Hermens from the Netherlands. She is coached by Bram Som from the Netherlands.

2) Sifan Hassan became a citizen of the Netherlands as a teenager. She is also managed by Jos Hermens. She also has trained in Flagstaff, Az. in 2016.

Here is a list of some 2:03 marathon runners:

1) Dennis Kimetto- 2:02:57, 2:03:45 managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

2) Eliud Kipchoge- 2:03:05, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

3) Emmanuel Mutai- 2:03:13, 2:03:52 managed by Michel Boeting (NED)

4) Wilson Kipsang-2:03:23, 2:03:42 managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

5) Geoffrey Mutai- 2:03:02, managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

6) Moses Mosop- 2:03:06, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

7) Haile Gebrselassie-2:03:59, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

Do you see a pattern with these 2:03 marathon runners?

ALL of them have managers from the Netherlands.

That is just a coincidence.

That is just a coincidence.

There is nothing to see here. Please go back to sleep.

Maybe they were warned not to speak to anyone but just go and pick up their sister. Maybe told that she was very sick or something like that. Surely their trip was not a coincidence at all. It could be that they were accompanied by an Iaaf official to make sure they follow instructions on not talking to anyone.

rjm33 wrote:

1) Dennis Kimetto- 2:02:57, 2:03:45 managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

2) Eliud Kipchoge- 2:03:05, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

3) Emmanuel Mutai- 2:03:13, 2:03:52 managed by Michel Boeting (NED)

4) Wilson Kipsang-2:03:23, 2:03:42 managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

5) Geoffrey Mutai- 2:03:02, managed by Gerard Van De Veen (NED)

6) Moses Mosop- 2:03:06, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

7) Haile Gebrselassie-2:03:59, managed by Jos Hermens (NED)

Do you see a pattern with these 2:03 marathon runners?

ALL of them have managers from the Netherlands.

That is just a coincidence.

Geoffrey Mutai- 2:03:02 self-coached

Patrick Makau- 2:03:38 self-coached

Stanley Biwott- 2:03:51 self-coached (was coached by Claudio Berardelli of Italy until late last year)

I can't be ALL if you "accidentally" leave some name off your ALL list.

You are so full of shit. Everyone is Innocent till proven guilty??? Is that how you treated the Oregon Project around this time last year?

One year later and the investigations are over yet you still look at them like they are doping. Save it.

Also we should remember that Genzebe is the only female in that group(I stand to be corrected). And as with the African cultures, females are only allowed to keep company with other females unless they are married. As the only female in the group, she is vulnerable and may explain the reason for her sisters showing up to pick her up. I assume Jama Aden was not only coach to her but also acted as her guardian. So Genzebe was like his daughter. With the arrest, someone was needed to take care of Genzebe's interest. I am not saying she is guilty of anything but speaking of the arrest of her coach, they could explain the presence of her elder sisters.

themanontherun wrote:

You seem like you'd rather be right and the state of track and field be in poor shape than be wrong and the incredible be real. I'm all for busting cheaters, but doesn't being gleeful about it kind of make you an asshoIe?

Thank you for the compliment.

Lets run.com is always so nice and warm.

What fun!!!

This episode has the indicators of a hit job by Seb Coe. Score points by busting dopers. First take out the Russians completely. Take out some of the top Africans. Be tough on doping, as long as it's not on your own kind of people. Who's left when the Russians and Africans are taken out? The NOP, Europeans, Limeys, Aussies, and Kiwis can rule again, like they did 30 or 50 years ago. Makes for a better show for the target audience if they can relate to the winners.

The IAAF even advertises their penchant for "target testing". I wonder who decides on the targets? When the head of the whole organization thinks Brits are inherently more honest than other nations, and that Salazar is a good guy, and that it's not a conflict of interest for him to be taking money from Nike, errrr, something seems wrong. But I do know for a fact that Seb is the right man to lead track and field out of this mess. I know because I've heard several influential (white Anglo/European/American types) people say so.

Cook was also running his mouth against Salazar lately...pointless. JA was with Cook when Abdi Bile was on top....speculate all you want...Cook was closer to JA than Salazar. All he wanted was the money from Nike.

Anybody managed by Jos Hermens?

You should ask IAAF President Lord Sebastian Coe (3:47.33 miler).

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

That is just a coincidence.

- I just thought the older sisters may have come to visit because the GD had not competed for a while and she had been injured. This has no bearing on whether or not she is a doper. I had not thought of these other scenarios.- I have no reason to doubt Torrence's account and it seems to make the Driouch's (sp?) more credible. If that is how Aden operates, it is hard to imagine that GD or her family were not aware of it and had not heard anything. This raises a lot of questions. - As you said, innocent until proven guilty. better to take a slower approach than was taken with the NOP report. This does seem much worse but it is early days.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Our first of many articles about the Aden doping raid is now published:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/06/everything-need-know-jama-aden-doping-raid-took-place-three-dibaba-sisters-present/

Very interesting. I enjoyed it until the end. Either you just did a horrible job setting up the Salazar bit (and you have something more intriguing) or that part is just crap journalism.

"As for Salazar, we’ll share an email that Aden sent to Salazar giving him the specifics of some of the workouts his stars were doing."

You have an email with workouts? Wow. That is Alberto's "association" with Salazar? If you have more great, but this just comes off as a poor attempt to somehow link Salazar to Aden.