Wow; LeBron coudln't bring Cleveland a title - Kyrie Irving did it!!!

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7 years ago 06/20/2016 9:00pm EDT

re: MeHereYouWhere?!

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
white peiople are naive wrote:
The NBA and officials brought Cleveland a title lol. The NBA has been ridiculous in terms of the numbers of rigged games / suspicious officiating for decades - and the NFL isn't far behind.
Yes, suspicious officiating makes James go off for 41 in Game 5, 41 in Game 6. Makes Curry only score 20 points COMBINED in the 2nd halves of Games 5 and 7 while playing at home.
No, suspicious activity is Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals. Still, arguably, the most rigged game in NBA history. Since you apparently don't know what a true "rig job" looks like, here are the quick details:
Sacremento Kings up 3 games to 2. Game 6 is in LA (I believe). Tied heading into 4th quarter. The Lakers, in the fourth quarter, shoot 27 free throws to the Kings 9. Several phantom calls against the Kings. Obviously, 1 is a big market, huge TV ratings team and the other is small market team.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/06/the-nba-s-greatest-ugliest-series.html

Thank you for referencing the Kings and reminding me of that terrible heartache. I was pulling for the Kings and declared if they didn't win I'd shave my head (I know, not that bold as declarations go). I wasn't so much worried about losing my hair as I watched the 4th quarter unfold as I was worried about how terribly officiated that game was. ESPN brought up the officiating of Dallas-Miami in '06 but it's the Kings game you referenced that remains seared in my brain.

7 years ago 06/21/2016 5:33pm EDT

re: Kenneth Davids

Kenneth Davids wrote:
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Yes, suspicious officiating makes James go off for 41 in Game 5, 41 in Game 6. Makes Curry only score 20 points COMBINED in the 2nd halves of Games 5 and 7 while playing at home.
No, suspicious activity is Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals. Still, arguably, the most rigged game in NBA history. Since you apparently don't know what a true "rig job" looks like, here are the quick details:
Sacremento Kings up 3 games to 2. Game 6 is in LA (I believe). Tied heading into 4th quarter. The Lakers, in the fourth quarter, shoot 27 free throws to the Kings 9. Several phantom calls against the Kings. Obviously, 1 is a big market, huge TV ratings team and the other is small market team.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/06/the-nba-s-greatest-ugliest-series.html
Thank you for referencing the Kings and reminding me of that terrible heartache. I was pulling for the Kings and declared if they didn't win I'd shave my head (I know, not that bold as declarations go). I wasn't so much worried about losing my hair as I watched the 4th quarter unfold as I was worried about how terribly officiated that game was. ESPN brought up the officiating of Dallas-Miami in '06 but it's the Kings game you referenced that remains seared in my brain.

Uh the Kings got it bad in 02, I pretty much quit on the NBA in 2010, watched the last game of the finals with a friend. Watched with a huge east coast guy and as he got more excited, the Celts were up 12. I said the Zebra's would start calling fouls in bunches and the Celts would lose, he kinda agreed with me and the game started turning. The story was already written, Kobe wins back to back without Shaq.

7 years ago 06/21/2016 5:38pm EDT

re: is this rojo?

Lebron had back to back 41 pt games, a triple double in the finals, and led both teams in scoring, rebounding, assists, blocked shots, and steals, the first time that has ever been done in a playoff series, let alone a finals, yet you said it was Kyrie Irving who won this???

7 years ago 06/21/2016 5:41pm EDT

re: Kenneth Davids

I remember, I missed the game live but had it stored on TiVo (do they still have that anymore?). I heard the controversy, so as I watched the game, when Q4 came around, I slow motioned almost every possession and certainly every foul call.

In my humble opinion, the Kings actually got beneficial calls in the first part of the quarter. They actually got away with some fouls and physicality, but then the Lakers certainly got foul calls in the second part of the quarter. They received the benefits. Maybe it was a fix, but to truly say it, one would really have to look at the whole quarter, ...check that, whole game, maybe whole series, and have some sort of objective analysis and study, then some sort of check list like foul, touch foul, phantom foul, missed foul, flop believed, flop not believed, etc. for each side....and this for on the ball and also off the ball. Add up the data and see what the study says. Of course, the study and analysis is still based on looking at a play subjectivity....which is why the debate will always go on.

7 years ago 06/21/2016 6:06pm EDT

re: billybudd

[quote]billybudd wrote:

Irving should have gotten the series MVP. I think his play overshadowed Lebron's ...

What?

Kyrie was fantastic but Lebron was the man.

7 years ago 06/21/2016 6:28pm EDT

re: jjjjjj

how many games did kyrie irving win prior to lebron's arrival?

7 years ago 06/21/2016 6:38pm EDT

re: jjjjjj

jjjjjj wrote:
Lebron had back to back 41 pt games, a triple double in the finals, and led both teams in scoring, rebounding, assists, blocked shots, and steals, the first time that has ever been done in a playoff series, let alone a finals, yet you said it was Kyrie Irving who won this???

You are talking about 2 different things. Kyrie's shot was the definitive final nail in the coffin. Lebron's awesome performance kept them in the game. Kyrie tipped them over the edge.

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