Do you hate Trump? Do you hate Hillary? We have the candidate for you. Should we formally endorse this man for Pres?

Good post.

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Avocado's Number wrote:

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You're traditional Republican? So did you vote for McCain, Mitt, Bush, Bush Sr?

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I said that I was a "traditional Republican" in 2000, when I chose not to vote for bush2. Before that, I had supported Richard Nixon (in 1972), Ronald Reagan (in 1976, when he didn't get the nomination, as well as in 1980 and 1984), and George Herbert Walker Bush (in both 1988 and 1992). In 1996, I voted, but not for President, since I couldn't honestly say that Bob Dole would be a better President than Bill Clinton, who had opposed his own party on significant issues, including free trade and welfare reform, and had generally exercised a degree of fiscal conservatism not previously associated with his party. (Clinton's second term was, in my view, a disaster, but not because of fiscal or other broad policy choices, but because he repeatedly lied, obstructed and sought to discredit the work of the independent prosecutor, and -- literally and figuratively -- soiled the Office of the President, leading to his impeachment.)

In 2000, I voted for the Libertarian candidate, which was quite a step for me, because I had never voted for any candidate for federal office other than a Republican. (If John McCain had been the Republican nominee that year, I would certainly have voted for him over Al Gore.) In 2004, I voted for John Kerry -- an easy choice when the opponent was by far the worst President since at least as far back as Warren Harding, although it still felt almost sinful to cast a vote for a Democrat after all those decades.

In 2008, my top two choices in the entire field were Barack Obama and John McCain; I would have voted for either of them over any of the other candidates of either major party. Ultimately, though, it became an easy choice to vote for Obama (a truly brilliant and thoughtful man) over McCain (who had, by then, largely sold out to the new right of the Republican Party, perhaps most notably in his inexcusably irresponsible choice of running mate). 2012 was somewhat similar; I remained generally very impressed by Obama, who had to deal with a dysfunctional Congress, and Romney (like McCain four years earlier) had largely thrown in his lot with the right wing of his party -- rather different from the Mitt Romney who had governed Massachusetts.

I remain entirely open to returning to Republican candidates, but the party is now dominated by fiscally irresponsible and socially wacky individuals, and it's difficult to turn around a major political party very quickly. (The Democratic Party may now seem more like the party of Abraham Lincoln than the Republican Party does, but that didn't happen overnight.) Gerrymandering of Congressional districts has largely ossified the composition of Congress, and campaign financing laws continue to tilt elections in favor of incumbents. So I'm disheartened by current circumstances. There have been, and still are, some excellent leaders from both parties. I would love to see some more Republicans like the old firebrand Alan Simpson and even the younger version of John McCain. On the Democratic side, I continue to have great regard for Barack Obama, and there are still tough-minded fiscal hawks like Erskine Bowles and sharp regulatory moderates like Cass Sunstein in the party. But both parties have generally staked out pretty extreme positions, and their legislative leaders appear to lack the incentives, thoughtfulness, and statesmanship to achieve productive compromises.

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I *LOVE* Hillary.

My wife and I have been donating monthly since the primaries.

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LetsRun.com wrote:

We know a lot of people don't like Hillary or Donald?

Maybe we should vote based on PRs.

What do you think?

RW says the LIbertarian candidate for President - Gary Johnson - is quite speedy.

“For starters—best marathon time, 2:48, Fiesta Bowl, 1984. Best 10K, 33:45. Best Olympic triathlon, 1991, 2 hours. Best Ironman Hawaii, 10:38, 2001. 16 marathons (Boston 2002 3:13ish). Leadville 100 mile run.â€

He's also got more executive experience as a politician than Trump or Hillary as he was the governor or New Mexico.

http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/presidential-candidate-gary-johnsons-impressive-running-past

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agip wrote:

remember that lefty supporters of third party candidate Ralph Nader gave us the worst president since WW2. A completely incompetent fool, george bush 2.

Those who voted for Nader are guilty of electing GW2.

If any moderate or lefty types vote for Stein or the libertarian, you are voting for Trump and have as much culpability as those lefties who voted for Nader but really voted for Bush.

Be brave. Be adult. Don't vote for Trump via a third party, moderates.

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Libertarian Town Hall CNN 9pm EST TONIGHT (6/22)

I am posting this because I absolutely cannot stand Trump or Clinton, and I think a lot of folks agree with me. This isn't so much an endorsement for Gary Johnson as an anti-endorsement for the other two candidates.

Why do I think folks agree with me? Because CNN has a third party on primetime.

Pass it along, and tune in.