Colby Alexander missed the A standard by the blink of an eye at Princeton today. Ran alone most of the way. 3:36.26.
Missed by 6 hundredths of a second.
Colby Alexander missed the A standard by the blink of an eye at Princeton today. Ran alone most of the way. 3:36.26.
Missed by 6 hundredths of a second.
And Murphy ran 3:36.23 at Portland. Also Hamish Carson (NZ) and Filip Ingebritson (NOR) are a few hundreths off. They picked a slippery standard for the 1500.
How do they pick these standards?
Of all the milers that will be running the trials 1500 this tear - zero hit the time in 2016.
Of all the milers who will run the 1500 at the Trials only 4 hit it last year. Two of those 4 hit it barely. By tenths. Any others that hit it (not many) are doing other events at the trials i.e. Jäger, True, Leslie and Heath.
It's not about a weak year for the 1500. Relatively, this standard seems to be tougher than most other events. It's equivalent to a 3:53.5 mile.
Kid's a good one. Seems like he's always winning or close. Gutsy racer.
No Henry Wynne tonight? Heard he was racing and damn shame he wasn't bc he would have had a very legit shot at the standard. Must be banged up or decided to shut season down to get ready for the fall, would be only reasons not to be chasing at this point. Hopefully he's healthy and will rip one last fast one in the next 5 days...
Another great OHIO miler!
By IAAF tables, 3:36.20 = 1:45.4,8:21,13:14,27:42. Oly standards are 1:46.0,8:30,13:25, 28:00. 1500 is by far the toughest standard, steeple, 5000 and 10000 are relatively soft.
Equivalent? wrote:
How do they pick these standards?
Of all the milers that will be running the trials 1500 this tear - zero hit the time in 2016.
Of all the milers who will run the 1500 at the Trials only 4 hit it last year. Two of those 4 hit it barely. By tenths. Any others that hit it (not many) are doing other events at the trials i.e. Jäger, True, Leslie and Heath.
It's not about a weak year for the 1500. Relatively, this standard seems to be tougher than most other events. It's equivalent to a 3:53.5 mile.
I believe that they just miss the standard because they are going for the standard, rather than setting a goal with some room to spare. Maybe they don't factor in fractions of a second in the lap splits or miscalculate--pretty hard to figure your fractions for 1500m vs. other distances since they don't run 500m or 300m laps (or 375m for that matter).
Agreed. Aim for 3:35 or 3:34 mid and give yourself some cushion.
jjjjjj wrote:
I believe that they just miss the standard because they are going for the standard, rather than setting a goal with some room to spare. Maybe they don't factor in fractions of a second in the lap splits or miscalculate--pretty hard to figure your fractions for 1500m vs. other distances since they don't run 500m or 300m laps (or 375m for that matter).
I imagine they set the standard to limit the number of starters to make up 3 rounds of the 1500. If they set standards looser, the fields might get too large for safety and 4 rounds is not something they want.
Also keep in mind that, for Rio as for last year's World's, field sizes are ultimately determined by target numbers, for all track events up through the steeple. Only the 5000m and 10000m are entirely governed by the time standards.
Thank you! That was my gut feeling. Not making any predictions as to who, but there is a chance someone without the standard could actually win the trials 1500 and not go to the games.
I know this discussion happens every year but now that we know the 1500 is the toughest standard, it blows for guys like Alexander and Murphy that miss the toughest standard by hundredths and are currently sitting as 2 of the top 3 milers in the United States right now.
Actually the TOP 2 cus True won't be running the 1500.
OK Torpedo wrote:
By IAAF tables, 3:36.20 = 1:45.4,8:21,13:14,27:42.
Oly standards are 1:46.0,8:30,13:25, 28:00.
1500 is by far the toughest standard, steeple, 5000 and 10000 are relatively soft.
Equivalent? wrote:How do they pick these standards?
Of all the milers that will be running the trials 1500 this tear - zero hit the time in 2016.
Of all the milers who will run the 1500 at the Trials only 4 hit it last year. Two of those 4 hit it barely. By tenths. Any others that hit it (not many) are doing other events at the trials i.e. Jäger, True, Leslie and Heath.
It's not about a weak year for the 1500. Relatively, this standard seems to be tougher than most other events. It's equivalent to a 3:53.5 mile.
Sorry. My post above was in reply to this quote.
Wasn't the 1500 Standard in a Worlds 3:34.90 many Years ago, and also the 5000 standard was 13:10.00 and the 10000 was 27:40.00 about 3-5 years ago?.
AND the qualifying window was shorter, the Standards up to 5000 started January 1st of the championship year.
Equivalent? wrote:
How do they pick these standards?
Of all the milers that will be running the trials 1500 this tear - zero hit the time in 2016.
Of all the milers who will run the 1500 at the Trials only 4 hit it last year. Two of those 4 hit it barely. By tenths. Any others that hit it (not many) are doing other events at the trials i.e. Jäger, True, Leslie and Heath.
It's not about a weak year for the 1500. Relatively, this standard seems to be tougher than most other events. It's equivalent to a 3:53.5 mile.
We should write an article on how many people in the world have it. It can't bet that many.
It's absurd. They should just say we get to send 3. The trials will be anticlimatic.
Princeton - you guys should have hired me to time it. As an alum, I would have done the finishlynx for free and trust me I'd have moved that cursor over by .06 to make sure he got it.
62 athletes worldwide have the 1500 standard, compared to well over 100 in the 5000:
Equivalent? wrote:
How do they pick these standards?
Of all the milers that will be running the trials 1500 this tear - zero hit the time in 2016.
Of all the milers who will run the 1500 at the Trials only 4 hit it last year. Two of those 4 hit it barely. By tenths. Any others that hit it (not many) are doing other events at the trials i.e. Jäger, True, Leslie and Heath.
It's not about a weak year for the 1500. Relatively, this standard seems to be tougher than most other events. It's equivalent to a 3:53.5 mile.
This standard used to be even faster than 3:36.20
I think 3:35.00 in 2012, there won't be that many qualifiers for the Olympics since they took away B standards starting last year
full results?
NOP Skeptic wrote:
there won't be that many qualifiers for the Olympics since they took away B standards starting last year
When they took away the B standard, they replaced it with qualifying by ranking. The target field is 45 and there will be at least that many qualifiers, by one method or the other.
injured
Centrowitz
Merber
other events
Jagar-S
True-5
Leslie-S
Heath-5
Andrews-8
Manzano-8
tactical races at Trials provide no chance to Q
QED
Blankenship is sole US OG Q in 1500