"Robert is currently a member of the Great Britain triathlon and biathlon teams and later this year he will be competing in eight international events and three national competitions.
Hertfordshire Insider wrote:
This is just Rob's way to make a living.
He was doing the same thing back in 2004.
http://archive.is/z26ng
Made my day. Laughed so hard. Maybe I shoudl try that. I stayed up to 3 am covering NCAAs and now am so tired I can't catch up on this thread.
Plaid pants wrote:coolguy33 wrote:I got to page 31 and didn't think I could go any further, but then I asked for six double espressos with 15 sugars, and suddenly I was back reading at a 6 posts per minute pace.
it's taken me a day and a half to catch up.
I LOVE this place. Thank you all for doing this.
Really?
BoneHawk wrote:
I have gotten the phone number for Mr. Youngs Crew!
9082406253 feel free to call them with any questions
What is so strange about wondering what the %#$^ is up with some car that starts following you around at 2 AM in the middle of nowhere? The grossest thing about all of this is the driveby post by rojo: "Go off and ruin this guy's entire life in one day guys!! AWESOME!! Don't worry, we'll look into the facts and bother to actually contact him later. In the meantime, trashing someone without a thought is what we live for at LRC, as long as my name gets mentioned on outside online."
Take those bananas wrote:Heavyd84 wrote:The "knife wielding madman story" would be plausible here.
Guys he is only a few miles from Ferguson...this could get interesting.
I understand the Law too!!!!! Upload the watch data now and everything is Kosher!!!
One Q. Put to Bed wrote:
It wasn't ever confirmed. Half this thread is now complete nonsense.
Claim: OMG RY took the PBs Down!
Reality: They are still on his website
Claim: His team changed all his wiki data
Reality: Someone in the world changed his wiki - there is no evidence it was RY or his team
Claim: OMG He must have been in the van
Reality: The video shows he wasn't in the video - thats it.
Claim: He lied about being a GB triathlete
Reality: Evidence exists to show he represented GB in a European Long Course Age Group Triathlon Competition
Claim: He's stealing the money
Reality: He's sponsored by several high profile companies who fund the adventures; money is raised via legitimate websites for charities.
Now there are things that haven't been cleared up yet; 15:56 5k, the full data set. But if Rob submits the evidence post run to the relevant body and they approve it you'll have an issue where several posters have written slanderous comments all over the board and I fully expect the likes of Lucozade a $1.3bn company to take legal action should posters be deemed to be doing their brands damage. Equally Rob will be under contract. I expect should he not meet contractual demands equal recompense be taken by his sponsors.
In the UK there has never been any hint of financial misappropriation of funds or cheating before in any of his runs as far as I can tell. I neither claim he is clean or dirty, but having watched this thread from the start ask legitimate questions it has dissolved into creepy, stalkerish rumourmongering, witch-hunts and fantasy crossing into slander. You would think bro'jo's would be sensible enough to not encourage such action in a case where, because of the nature of ultra running definitive proof is always tough (unlike say, chip timed marathons).
OH YEAH - well I had 10 Espressos and pure Red Bull into them and drank a bottle of wine just to get caught up in here and was able to go at sub 5 posts/minute!
rojo wrote:Plaid pants wrote:Made my day. Laughed so hard. Maybe I shoudl try that. I stayed up to 3 am covering NCAAs and now am so tired I can't catch up on this thread.coolguy33 wrote:I got to page 31 and didn't think I could go any further, but then I asked for six double espressos with 15 sugars, and suddenly I was back reading at a 6 posts per minute pace.
it's taken me a day and a half to catch up.
I LOVE this place. Thank you all for doing this.
Can someone tell me who posted the video from Mr. Gs?? Was that the OP?
If you are the OP or the Mr. G video guy, please email me [email protected]
I think that one is true. He oversold it and in the article linked earlier he was "World Champion", but he did place third in a triathlon in Germany.
Film at 11:00? wrote:
When did he win a bronze medal in a world age group triathlon championship?
btw, he manages to push himself both as a former world champion, elite athlete when he was in his 20s and as a non-running couch potato during the same period.
elephino wrote:Film at 11:00? wrote:I think that one is true. He oversold it and in the article linked earlier he was "World Champion", but he did place third in a triathlon in Germany.
When did he win a bronze medal in a world age group triathlon championship?
When is the interview?
BoneHawk wrote:
I have gotten the phone number for Mr. Youngs Crew!
9082406253 feel free to call them with any questions
This is a good example of the BS I was referring to, OK.
sc42 wrote:
What is so strange about wondering what the %#$^ is up with some car that starts following you around at 2 AM in the middle of nowhere?
What do you mean "if he finishes this attempt, the data will be presented?". I think anyone would agree that he needs to present data RIGHT NOW. What he's planning to present to Guiness is only proof that he covered the distance with GPS data on an RV. He's not going to provide data proving he RAN that distance. If I or any other sane honest runner were him, I'd be putting up as much data as possible to show up the skeptics. The idea that we will see something only when he's done is ludicrous. He's had and continues to have so much opportunity to prove his honesty but so far we have seen nothing.
Or... wrote:CoachKev wrote:Thank you CoachKev. I don't have the depth of your experience with Rob. I happened to meet him earlier this year after listening to a presentation and then had the chance of spending a couple hours with him in a social environment.Kevlar wrote:1. I have no idea as i'm not there but I do think its very possible.
Kev -
Please answer:
1. Do you think his 40 mile efforts at sub 7 min mile pace through the desert are genuine?
2. Why have they stopped since this thread started?
3. What do you now think about his pro cycling career?
4. What do you think about his marathon and half marathon pbs vanishing from his website?
5. You're not there either. Is your mind open to the POSSIBILITY he has lied and cheated?
2. Why has what stopped? If you mean Rob running he still is and he is very tired. the heat is crazy and he has run a lot of miles. There is a huge amount of respect now on Ultra list for what he is doing and this is coming from respected athletes not people who hide behind keyboards.
3. I have no idea but I think this looks very much like Rob at the back of the pack if you increase the size of the pic. I have asked for more evidence direct and will post when i get more
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Robert_Young_(triathlete)#/media/File:Robert_Young_team_time_trial_cycling.jpg
4. I would estimate that they are looking into the full details. I know at London when he ran 3.07 he stopped and was interviewed for around 15-20 minutes and I think ti was by lucozade but I will get this clarified and a link to show the interview if this is possible. If you take 15 mins off this 3.07 then his probability of running 2.41 is highly probable
5.My mind is very open to this possibility. I do know a bit more than many of the doubters on here AND I have run with him on a few occasions.
I say let him continue running and get people on the ground running with him. Surely the original poster who put the various VERY suspect videos on here will be only maybe 100 miles away and could go along and view or run with Rob now.
It's very sad to see so many haters and people saying things that they have no evidence at all or reason to say. There is shed loads of speculation and no concrete evidence. I am trying to provide concrete evcidence and not hyperbole.
Ironically the poster who called him self aperrson is not Andy Persson at all. This fraud account posted that he had spoken to Rob's Fiance Joanna and this never happened as I spoke to Joanna about this today.
If people want to pretend to be someone they are not then how can anyone believe anything on this or other threads. People need to be transparent and not hide behind aliases or BS names. At least i am being genuine and have no agenda other than to support someone I trust and believe in.
I have run with Rob. I have donated to his various charities and contributed a tiny amount when he was in deep financial trouble on his race across America.
I can assure you all that he has NEVER taken any money from any of his charities and to say so is not only a downright lie but it could get those who say this into trouble. I will get full disclosure on this from the various charities and post here when I have it.
Rob has had some supporters financially at home in the UK and has also received some sponsorship money but I can tell you he is not making any decent money or even any money worth talking about. He is constantly on the breadline.
His book sales will help a little but believe me when I tell you that he will probably earn in the region of £1.00 per book until that book has sold at least 2 reprints and then it will increase to maybe the princely sum of £2.00 a book. (This last statement on the book sales alone is my estimation and belief and is not a hard fact)
If you want to really hurt Rob and make him suffer then why don't you let him complete the challenge as running with this level of scrutiny for the remaining distance will be very intense. However defaming his character and saying he has stolen money is slanderous.
I agree there seem to be inconsistencies with some of his times but Rob has run hundreds of races in his time and whilst times are important to many they don't really have that much of a bearing for him. As we get more information I will post here.
I will happily answer any questions that I have answers to and if I don't have an answer I will endeavour to find it for you all as long as it is relevant and not just some dumb ass statement of malice.
In the mean time please let him run and go and join him for a run but keep the really nasty stuff for the really nasty people who deserve it. This is just a guy running across a country, it's not life or death. If he does beat the record then there will be plenty of people who will be on his case to prove every aspect of this.
I found him to be genuinely passionate about his causes and walked away feeling that I had just met a special individual who is wired a bit differently than myself but in such a way that makes his world and abilities plausible.
As for the van team - they are not a professional support team. It's a couple of guys ( I personally know one of them - Michael ) that are learning on the job. Managing their own fatigue, Rob and trying to manage the data/updates can't be easy - especially a month into this attempt.
I can't speak to whether he has legitimately completed the attempt to this point. I wasn't there. I also wasn't there when the original poster in this forum showed up. Is his story fabricated to bring doubt to Rob's attempt? For someone outside of the Ultra "Let's Run" community that's just as plausible. His actions seem like he was out to "catch him" not doing what he said he was doing.
I do find it interesting that most of the doubters here seem to be concerned of his ability due to his pedigree. The "He's not one of us" attitude. He isn't. He doesn't have the traditional ultra runners resume. From my brief experience with him my guess is that he doesn't care. Had he competed in the Westcoast alongside some of you would you be giving him more slack and waiting until he finished?
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he finishes this attempt, the data will be presented and there will be plenty of time to scrutinize it.
I hope others concerned with the legitimacy of his attempt will give him the benefit of the doubt too until all the evidence is presented.
World Champion Swims for Charity
Hertfordshire Insider wrote:
This is just Rob's way to make a living.
He was doing the same thing back in 2004.
http://archive.is/z26ng
PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A MARATHON IF YOU RAN 26 MILES!!
curiously interested wrote:
A CAFE owner has completed seven marathons in seven days to raise money for a Bristol-based water charity.
Andy Persson, 47, who co-owns and runs Hooper House Cafe in Stokes Croft, ran 184 miles from the source of the River Thames near Kemble in Gloucestershire to the Thames Barrier in London.
He finished the gruelling task on Saturday afternoon after setting off on Sunday, August 26.
Mr Persson completed the final marathon – from Kew Bridge to the Thames Barrier – in three hours and 56 minutes. He said: "I seemed to get stronger each day and felt really good when I finished. I felt like turning around and doing it again.
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Sorry, Andy. Sounds like a great series of runs for an experienced runner, but your friend Rob Young belittles you. He ran seven marathons in his first five days of marathoning! We should know. It's in his book!