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Trinity1976 wrote:
Amusingly, he has posted a 'good luck buddy x' message to himself by accident. Clearly he meant to log off his account and log back on to one of his fan accounts (possibly Phil Turner who is surely too much of a sycophant to be real) but accidentally posted it while still logged on as marathonmanuk. What a tosser!

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Asher Delmott wrote:
Robert Young, or Marathon Man, is currently attempting to break the record for fastest crossing of the USA on foot. (His website: http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk...a-on-foot/)

I went out to to run a few miles with him since I thought he would be lonely running at 1:00 am in the middle of nowhere Kansas, and I thought it would be cool to be a part of something big like this. Below is my account of realizing this guy is faking it:

I wanted to run for a couple miles with the guy running across America, since I saw he was coming very near Lebo. I saw he was within 10 miles of Lebo, so I got in my car to find exactly how far away he was. I started driving west on old highway 50 from Lebo, and eventually passed an RV going east with an American flag on the back corner of the vehicle. I recognized that as the runner's RV, but I did not see anyone running. I thought the runner might have another support vehicle further back, so I kept driving. After a couple of miles, I checked his live tracking, and saw that the runner was indeed east of me. I took a screenshot of where the map said he was, then drove down the road. When I got close to the RV, I started filming, and still did not see a runner. They did not have hazard lights until I got somewhat close behind them. I decided to get out of my car at the next intersection to stand on the south side of the RV to get a better view. The next intersection was a main road, so I turned toward Lebo, and parked a block down the road. I ran back to old highway 50 and started going toward the RV. I didn't want them to stop before I got to them, so I ran up next to a house, and watched as the RV drove by with no runner in sight. I also took a screenshot of the map and took a video of the RV driving by. After it drove by, I ran into the highway, turned on my headlamp to strobe mode, and started running behind the RV. It was driving running speed, so I was making progress, but they saw my light and stopped. Someone got out of the passenger side of the RV, but when I got closer they got back in, and the RV drove off too fast for me to follow on foot. I ran back to my car, then drove to the highway. By that time, the RV had returned to the intersection of Fauna road and old highway 50. Someone was standing outside the RV, but I just drove past it heading east. I parked on the south side of the next intersection, and again, waited for the RV to pass. While waiting, I looked at the live tracking, and saw where the RV had driven away, and then come back, so I took a screenshot of that. I waited in my car for a few more minutes, and as the RV approached, I took another screenshot, and then another video* as the RV drove by once again without anyone running beside it.

*note: I turned my camera from vertical to horizontal around the two minute mark, so you have to turn your head 90 degrees to the left to see the RV driving by (or understand it is driving from bottom of the screen to the top).

All of the screenshots and the first two videos are shared in Google Drive at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0i6cerKgSc0cjdjMFQ3NW1JY1E
Unfortunately, they don’t show my location in relation to Rob’s, but I think I have location services turned on with my phone, so someone should have access to that data. The final video, I am having trouble sharing it any other way than Google Photos, so that link is: https://goo.gl/photos/oK8L339ndAqJFZiPA


I realize it is dark, so the videos don’t show a whole lot, but here are some points to consider.

1) The highway he was running on has no shoulder, so he likely would have been running in front of the RV in order to use its lights, and to keep safe from cars. Cars behind would see the RV and avoid it, while cars in front would see him in the headlights, as well as the RV. Rob does not appear in the headlights of any of my videos. If he did choose to run in the grass on the side of the road, I expect he would use a headlamp or flashlight, but again, there is no sign of a light other than those on the RV. The first video shows he was not running behind the RV, or in the oncoming traffic lane.

2) In my first video, you can also see the hazard lights of the RV turn on as I drive up from behind. It seems like support vehicles usually drive with their hazard lights on the whole time, but it makes sense that this group wouldn’t if they are trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves.

3) Also, see his recent blog post where Nancy Bennett attempted to run with him at night, and we unable to see him until the vehicle stopped (allowing him to exit the vehicle). It would be interesting to get her input on her experience compared to mine. The blog explains that Rob was just on the other side of the RV, but my multiple attempts allowed me to see all sides of the RV to ensure I did not just miss him on the other side (unless he is running circles around the RV).

I am convinced that Robert is not completing all of the distance on foot, and I understand my screenshots and videos cannot definitively prove it, but I think it at least warrants a very close inspection of his attempt if he is to be awarded recognition for this. Maybe other people have an experience and/or evidence that also indicates he is not running the whole distance.

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How many... wrote:
...falsehoods can you spot in the wikipedia article on RY?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_(endurance_runner)

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re: Wiki wrote:
Didn't he already get in trouble for writing his own pages on Wikipedia? He claimed he was a professional bike rider or something if memory serves.

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Kevin McE wrote:
I am a sometime Wiki editor who several years ago found, and had deleted, numerous previous biographies of Young which made ridiculous claims, including that he had been on the Milram Pro Cycling team, very easily disproven. Nothing in these versions of his biography (which was in fact anonymous auto-biography) about a troubled childhood.

All went quiet (Wiki-wise) for several years, then there was a new puff piece written by Young himself in December 2016. There were soon many edits, denouncing his cheating and providing lots of evidence of it. Young then requested that the article be removed from Wikipedia, as it was a personal attack on him. That request was declined. They article had various tweaks over several months, mainly not complementary to Young but based on sound research.

On 10 May this year, an administrator on Wikipedia deleted the article, re-wrote it in a style that took anything a newspaper had said about Young (promotional interviews at time of his book) as totally reliable, and removing anything critical or sceptical. I removed the unverifiable biographical claims, but then faced an avalanche of bullying responses from admins, saying that I was trying to set the article up as no more than an attack on the man, and threatening sanctions against me on the site.

Only administrators on Wikipedia have access to deleted articles: I have asked several times for admins to show previous claims that Young has made about himself so that readers are in an informed position to decide whether to trust Young's claims about himself, but one has yet responded, or explained why they would not do so.

There seems to be a small number of admins there who are determined to keep the article there as vanilla as possible, and unwilling to accept that newspapers are not a reliable source, even when their only source is a proven habitual liar.

But Wikipedia boasts of itself as the "encyclopaedia anyone can edit", so feel free to cast some light there.

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ddfun wrote:
The one year anniversary of this thread is coming up next Wednesday. I declare that June 7th will be known as Asher Delmott Day henceforth.

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ddfun wrote:
The one year anniversary of this thread is coming up next Wednesday. I declare that June 7th will be known as Asher Delmott Day henceforth.

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ddfun wrote:
The one year anniversary of this thread is coming up next Wednesday. I declare that June 7th will be known as Asher Delmott Day henceforth.

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wikialterer wrote:
Yes, a very different wiki page to the previous one. Looks like it's written by him with only a cursory mention of his cheating...probably because he knows he has to mention it somewhere as it's so well published.

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