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ThunderThighs wrote:

JB1983 wrote:

ThunderThighs wrote:

A lie why? Because you believe it to be.

Bunch of deluded odd people on here

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Rob Young has lied or greatly exaggerated about everything else so it is only logically to question what he has publicly published and said in interviews about his childhood/personal life.

You have no idea if he has lied or not yet

your name would be better suited as ThunderCvnt

Show me one part of his book that is not an outright lie or great exaggeration.

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RYinRV wrote:

ThunderThighs wrote:

JB1983 wrote:

ThunderThighs wrote:

A lie why? Because you believe it to be.

Bunch of deluded odd people on here

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Rob Young has lied or greatly exaggerated about everything else so it is only logically to question what he has publicly published and said in interviews about his childhood/personal life.

You have no idea if he has lied or not yet

your name would be better suited as ThunderCvnt

Show me one part of his book that is not an outright lie or great exaggeration.

Did someone actually read his entire book? Not only the first couple of pages.
I bet it contains a huge number of inconsistencies.

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QualityPost wrote:
Tracker and GPS data are cans of worms. Here's another. Although the
letsrun conversation is 98% noise, the remaining 2% is worth noting.

There is a day that Rob's RV got stuck in the desert. The location is
known. There is a photo circulating of him next to the stuck RV. The exif
data from that photo gives a timestamp of A.

Later, as part of the blog, there are photos of a freshly showered (and
rested? well, rested looking) Rob enjoying the life of the destination
they've reached. The exif data from that gives a timestamp of B.

The distance between the stuck RV's location and that town is 40+ miles by
road or 23ish miles over a small set of mountains w/o roads nor marked
trails.

Whether he legged out the 40+ road miles or somehow orienteered his way
through the brush for 23ish miles without navigational aids, the time
between A and B is incredible. And I mean that in a literal sense.

While exif data can be manipulated too, it would make no sense to adjust
timestamps in a way that would make the distance traveled pretty much
impossible by foot.

Andy, I know you are standing up for your friend. And letsrun is a lot of
noise. But the person who put the above info together actually did some
important legwork. Without 'hating'. I commend you for leaving that
conversation alone and standing up for Rob, but it is discrepancies such as
this which are puzzling.

When I look at photos of Rob since Laz joined, I see a guy who is really
working hard. Thumbs up. At the same time, I wonder why he did not look
quite like this in photos posted during the earlier parts all the way to
Missouri. I'm not making an accusation, and I'm not a hater. I'm making an
honest observation.

Last thing. I've been around US running message boards for 16 years now.
Dynamics and sociology are interesting. letsrun ESPECIALLY so. Andy,
you've announced (maybe twice?) in the letsrun conversation that you are
leaving and dramatically told them why. This is your right, but or better
or worse, this is known as "flouncing". When you return, as you have, it
just marks you for more of that special "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids"
banter that they are so well known for. I'm not saying you should/shouldn't
post there... that is your decision... but if you decide to leave, my
advice is to do it quietly. Flouncing does not serve the purpose you think
it does beyond the possible catharsis of writing tell-off words.

Good luck.

I really wanted to believe in Rob. I do not currently.

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oh please wrote:
Someone mentioned Jurek a few pages back, and hopefully his feat last year can be appreciated a little more now. Something like 50 miles a day for 46+ days, over some really tough trails.

I would think he has what it takes to actually make a legitmate shot at the transcontinental record.

Also, LOL at the people thinking walking at 4 mph for hours on end, days on end would be easy.

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oh please wrote:
Someone mentioned Jurek a few pages back, and hopefully his feat last year can be appreciated a little more now. Something like 50 miles a day for 46+ days, over some really tough trails.

I would think he has what it takes to actually make a legitmate shot at the transcontinental record.

Also, LOL at the people thinking walking at 4 mph for hours on end, days on end would be easy.

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1980 record expert wrote:
I was on Letsrun during that 1980 Transcon run. It was epic too. 1856 pages of debate. We did not believe a word that tool said and run him through the ringer. There were also intense debates between Ultra dudes and Milers. It was awesome.

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TeamRobbie.Gold Member® wrote:
There is a British phrase "not a sausage" which in the English colonies of the United States is translated as "nothing at all".

So if a sausage is involved…Robbie's effort to be able to run sub 6:00 minute pace will be not a sausage.

That is weird.

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JB1983 wrote:
that settles it, religion thrown in = 100% fraud

Follow ashers money

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Brianruns10 wrote:
I'd imagine there are those of you who have had similar experiences, but I don't think RY's personality is unique by any stretch among runners. I knew just such a runner.

Several years ago, I met a runner whom we'll call Jason, following a 10K that a ran, in which he also participated (finishing behind me). He was friendly enough and talked about his training and his aspirations in the marathon. At the time I had similar aspirations and so we went for a few runs together.

I quickly discovered not all was right. That outgoing, friendly personality revealed a narcissism that impressive in its scope. All conversations inevitably returned to him and how he was going to quality for the OT marathon later that year, how he was going to make the World's team.

But his actual ability didn't seem to gel with his aspirations. He struggled to keep up on a six mile run, despite claiming to be running two a days, and logging elite level weekly mileage. He had a poor running form, almost knocking knees and pronating to the point that I wondered if he'd even been fitted for a proper set of trainers.

I eventually stopped running with him, but he would occasionally turn up at group runs with the local sub-elite outfit. By now, his character took on a new angle, as his bluster turned to outright exagerration and falsehood. He claimed Powerbar was sponsoring him, when in fact he was just getting free samples that Powerbar gives to anyone who claims to be a coach or trainer. He claimed outrageous times that he couldn't back up, such as having broken 15 minutes for 5K on a track.

At area races, he consistently underperformed, running 19 minute 5Ks, and always he had an excuse...he took a wrong turn, he tripped. His favorite excuse was that he was using the race as a training/tempo run. Over the course of a summer he managed to alienate the entire running community by claiming his superiority in racing. Several challenged him to races, offering to comp his entry fee. He never accepted, but continued to claim he was the best, without any proof.

Eventually he lost every shred of credibility he had. He was a decent runner, but could find no one to run with because everyone was so thoroughly tired of him.

I think RY is the same type of personality. He's a narcissist in search of a source to validate that narcissism. He has made increasingly outrageous claims that don't seem to be backed up by anything, and now finally the wall he has built up around himself is starting to come down as more people call him on it and challenge him to prove his mettle.

I feel very sorry for him.

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RYinvestigator wrote:
Very weird: http://imgur.com/pR2dU8e

“Well the pain of running beats getting a nail hammered through my foot. Not really anything is as painful as that.†He remembers being zipped in a suitcase and pushed down the stairs, and being hanged with a cord attached to a coat hanger.

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Question..? wrote:

RYinvestigator wrote:
Very weird: http://imgur.com/pR2dU8e

“Well the pain of running beats getting a nail hammered through my foot. Not really anything is as painful as that.†He remembers being zipped in a suitcase and pushed down the stairs, and being hanged with a cord attached to a coat hanger.

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Why is a story of child abuse 'weird'?

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oh please wrote:
Someone mentioned Jurek a few pages back, and hopefully his feat last year can be appreciated a little more now. Something like 50 miles a day

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Ultra Rad wrote:
Stings doesn't it. You know it does. Deep down inside you know your best days (like breaking an hour for a 10K) are far behind you. All you have left now is to pull on that fannypack, strap on that bandana and go out in the woods and do what most people call a hike, and call it a "ultra-marathon."

You go for it, oh walker of the woods. You go!

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Not a Brit wrote:
There's also a British phrase "cock up". It describes the lust in your loins when you watch Paula run.

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