• oh pullleeeze
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:28AM - in reply to rules is rules
      • oh pullleeeze
      • rules is rules wrote:
        I realise many of you think it's just fun and 'banter' but you don't think about how awful it would be if an entire section of people suddenly turned on you for no decent reason and began to discredit your entire life and question everything about you.
        oh pulleeeze. You think there is "no decent reason" to question what RY claims?

        RY brought this all on himself by promoting himself with ridiculous claims and no attempt to verify any of it.

        I don't like the acerbic vitriol on this forum, but RY deserves to be questioned.
    • writer of bad comments
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:32AM - in reply to rules is rules
      • writer of bad comments
      • rules is rules wrote:
        Can I suggest that for every person who has written a bad comment that you pledge to donate $1.00 if Rob succeeds in this challenge and to double it if he is proven to have done it without cheating.
        I'll pledge to donate $1.00 for his data regardless of whether he succeeds or has cheated.

        Deal?
    • moanswers
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:33AM - in reply to Racergirl
      • moanswers
      • Racergirl wrote:
        A recap:

        .
        Nice recap Racergirl. this could be used as the basis for a front page story here.
    • getting wrong
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:35AM - in reply to writer of bad comments
      • getting wrong
      • writer of bad comments wrote:
        rules is rules wrote:
        Can I suggest that for every person who has written a bad comment that you pledge to donate $1.00 if Rob succeeds in this challenge and to double it if he is proven to have done it without cheating.
        I'll pledge to donate $1.00 for his data regardless of whether he succeeds or has cheated.

        Deal?
        ^^^^
        This, the comments in here are becoming disgusting, his childhood or personal life/past have nothing to do with his sporting claims or achievements.
    • rosshm16
      registered
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:36AM - in reply to Metric running dude
      • rosshm16
        registered
      • Metric running dude wrote:
        I like to record all my runs in Centimeters instead of a Meters. Is it wrong if i don't tell people up front when I quote my fastest times?
        I suggest reporting your "5k PR" for 5000 yards. Much more subtle.
    • Breer, I'm from Iowa
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:36AM - in reply to Pieman
      • Breer, I'm from Iowa
      • He still needs to finish at a coastal city according to his website. Even if he can change his plan from the announced finish at Times Square, given his current location what is the closest coastal city that could be considered a finish. The distance to that location is the minimum he still needs to cover.
    • Yea But
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:38AM - in reply to Inside Info
      • Yea But
      • Inside Info wrote:
        Latest from RayK:

        I sent early information and a picture last night as the Geezer Team #2 began their observations. At 6:20 Rob started precisely where he left off. He walked briefly then took off. He was running 8’s. He covered the first 4 miles in 33:50, just under 8:30s, but had started out walking. As we waited we saw Jim Barnes. Jim and his wife, Debbie, had showed up to help Rob. (Jim, a 30+ year veteran of running ultras, had run with Rob across Alabama last year during the marathon a day race.)
        Debbie had worked on Rob’s feet and they were feeling better. Rob and I had talked about cutting some of his shoes to relieve pressure on his feet. He gave me a pair of Brooks Ravenna and I cut them to multi-day standards. He put them on and was greatly impressed. After a couple of miles in these “worn out†shoes he asked me to do the same with a pair with good cushioning. I said I would and he gave me an almost new pair of a later model Brooks Ravenna. I made the modification and he took off again.
        With feet fixed and in comfortable shoes he continued to run steady, gradually slowing. As mentioned his first 4.0 was 33:50. He ran his next 3.3 in 31 minutes and followed that with 47 minute 2.5 that included a break. We recorded an 8:24 mile. He then settled in with the second pair of modified shoes.
        For a while then he ran and walked making steady progress until….. he was not coming. I walked back to find him and found him tired. He said he had also stopped for a massage. That 2.5 mile section took 1:14, 10 minutes better than his 1:24 2.5 from the previous night, but still slow. By then it was after midnight and time to change shifts. He had run 26.6 miles right at 6 hours under close observation. He went down for an hour break…. and the next miles are for another to report.

        A few observations. Yes I modified some shoes for Robert. Regardless of what happened early in the run, I can speculate, but not know for sure, I want him to do his best. I want to observe his best. I believe I have watched him become a multi-day runner this week. The daily mileages, dipping into the 40s, back to the 50s, a 40, followed by a 50… he is, even if he wasn’t already, becoming a multi-day runner. He has expressed interest in running multi-day runs, six days, 10 days, whatever. He feels he can be good at these. I believe that as he learns more he can be. If modifying shoes can help ease some of the discomfort associated with this run so be it. As he ran longer periods at his faster paces I wondered if by giving him his feet it might cost him his legs. I was pleased when he settled into more of a multi-day pacing strategy.
        There is a lot going on, and I’m sure the conversations in the RV are interesting. The crew, and Rob have been very open with their plans, as much as they have determined them. They all remain friendly and dedicated to the task at hand.
        They still do things where I worry about safety. Rob spends a lot of time at the window of the RV, sometimes the passenger side, sometimes the driver’s side on the yellow line. Some of this is to keep him out of the sun. Some I feel is for the human contact, especially when tired. He also ran some of his fast running directly in front of the RV, with a camera mounted to the hood of the RV.
        I will observe another session tonight before having to leave for my 100 mile in NYC at The Great New York Running Exposition Saturday. I hope to repeat my sub 24 hour performance from Dawn to Dusk to Dawn from four weeks ago…. Time will tell…. But then that is the purpose of running….. to see what the time does tell……
        rojo wrote: So a guy who was well on his way to smashing the WR until Asher posted on letsruncom is now suddently a rookie who is just learning how to be a multi-day runner?

        That post is more damning than anything.

        I don't agree that the crew "has been very open". Release the watch files.
        theohiostate wrote:Couldn't agree more Rojo. He was partying it up after 70 mile days in the beginning through the heat and elevation of the Rockies. Now he is a brittle broken man running around 40mi a day at lower elevations without the hills. Dude must be in a world of hurt that only he caused himself.
        In fairness we did all think, as soon as this broke, he was about feign some injury so he could quit. But he's carried on. Plus there are two crews on the ground now and both are reporting openness and willingness to be scrutinised.
    • lan MacFurigh
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:38AM - in reply to 2 x claim
      • lan MacFurigh
      • 2 x claim wrote:
        sasquatch wrote:
        Um, isn't multi-day running his claim to fame?
        Almost. His claim to multi-day running is his claim to fame.
        The art of the left handed compliment is lost to Letsrun.
    • getting wrong
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:38AM - in reply to
      • getting wrong
      • RobsMom wrote:
        rules is rules wrote:
        As far as "The Kids" go, this really gets my goat and I'm not going to have a rant but i'm going to point a few things out.
        Hi CoachKev!
        Tell us a bit about little Olivia, please.
        http://imgur.com/a/HQczs
        there is no fvcking need for stuff like this is there
    • Run fast
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:39AM - in reply to ICE
      • Run fast
      • So if he needs 58 a day but is doing 50 a day then after 7 days he'll be short 56 over the daily 58 with 6 days left. So he would need 6 days of 67 to do it.

        If he can he should try:

        50
        60
        55
        60
        55
        65
        55
        65
        65
        55
        65
        50
        55

        At some point he has to either go for the record or the finish
    • Patience and planning
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:40AM - in reply to writer of bad comments
      • Patience and planning
      • writer of bad comments wrote:
        rules is rules wrote:
        Can I suggest that for every person who has written a bad comment that you pledge to donate $1.00 if Rob succeeds in this challenge and to double it if he is proven to have done it without cheating.
        I'll pledge to donate $1.00 for his data regardless of whether he succeeds or has cheated.

        Deal?
        I think pretty much everyone on this thread would be willing to donate $1 if Rob succeeds, and $1,000,000 if he can prove he didn't cheat.
    • moanswers
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:40AM - in reply to Patience and planning
      • moanswers
      • Patience and planning wrote:
        So thanks to Asher, 113, team1.klm, The day the RV broke down, Just finished a 64 mile run, Markus, noobrunner, rhizomes, and Real Laz. I apologize if I forgot anyone else who has been "doing the math". You are all doing an impressive job of keeping Rob's feet to the fire.
        +100

        It's impressive to see the collection of skills it takes to call out this guy.

        thank you.
    • dodging the real questions
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:40AM - in reply to rules is rules
      • dodging the real questions
      • rules is rules wrote:
        ...
        Another long ad hominem attack about those raising questions. Yawn.

        Just post the data.
    • team1.kml
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:41AM - in reply to rojo
      • team1.kml
      • rojo wrote:
        I don't agree that the crew "has been very open". Release the watch files.
        rojo,

        Quick summary on the watch files...

        TomTom users with experience can correct me if I'm wrong, but the TomTom files are synced or uploaded to the TomTom website. I think it's called "MySports." From there you can export the files as .tcx, .kml, .gpx, and .fit (https://www.tomtom.com/en_us/mytomtom/mysports/). You can also publish them to strava using TomTom GPS Watch to MySports Connect (https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918027-Automatically-uploading-to-Strava-from-your-TomTom-device).

        As far as what he HAS shared, there are a number of screenshots from Firefox open to his MySports profile. Each entry has the start time, the miles run, the pace, and a small thumbnail map of the route. We have been able to link up most of the thumbnails to his route and cross-reference those with the GPS tracker (which seems to almost always been in the RV).

        There are many inconsistencies, but a few here have focused on the May 18 day in which the RV got stuck in the sand. I'm not sure if you saw these graphics that summarize some of what we know about that day:(http://imgur.com/zjXpAoP) and this one (http://i.imgur.com/HdyOwyd.jpg). They need some more updates because we have deduced more since those were made.

        At this point, even a screenshot of that thumbnail for the 21.97 segment entering Laughlin would be helpful. You can doctor gpx files and upload them to the TomTom MySports website, but it would still be helpful to see what route is claimed because the timeline supports either 1) 22 miles straight across the Mohave wilderness unsupported in 80 degree temps under full sun, 2) 14 miles along the Hwy are "missing", or 3) There's a third segment for 14 miles which were run in less than an hour. Even if they doctor the data, it would be good to make official what their claim is. I also recognize they can (and should) read this before making their official claim but wth, here we are on an anonymous message board :-)

        Note that he wasn't too knackered when he got to Laughlin not to play roulette and sit by the pool...
    • sasquatch
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:42AM - in reply to Patience and planning
      • sasquatch
      • Patience and planning wrote:
        I think pretty much everyone on this thread would be willing to donate $1 if Rob succeeds, and $1,000,000 if he can prove he didn't cheat.
        Not me.

        a. unlike everyone else on this board, I don't actually have $1,000,000.

        b. I'm pretty sure he cheated, but not $1,000,000 sure.
    • please dont go there
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:44AM - in reply to
      • please dont go there
      • RobsMom wrote:
        rules is rules wrote:
        As far as "The Kids" go, this really gets my goat and I'm not going to have a rant but i'm going to point a few things out.
        Hi CoachKev!
        Tell us a bit about little Olivia, please.
        http://imgur.com/a/HQczs
        I think Rob rode in the RV, but please don't drag the family in this, even if it's in his book.
        CoachKev please disregard that comment.
    • 113
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:47AM - in reply to Breer, I'm from Iowa
      • 113
      • Breer, I'm from Iowa wrote:
        He still needs to finish at a coastal city according to his website. Even if he can change his plan from the announced finish at Times Square, given his current location what is the closest coastal city that could be considered a finish. The distance to that location is the minimum he still needs to cover.
        There's nowhere he can run to that is closer than NYC that will count. From his own website: "Any two coastal cities may be chosen as long as their distance apart exceeds the 2,766 miles from Los Angeles to New York."

        Since he started in L.A., any new city he chose would have to be farther away than L.A.

        All of that business he was talking about in that Facebook video re: running 3,000 miles or 3,1000 miles or whatever is just nonsense and has nothing to do with the actual record attempt. It's pretty typical of how they've responded to every question: change the subject to something unrelated and more complicated.
    • He will do it
      • RE: Robert Young fakes run across America 6/16/2016 11:47AM - in reply to Run fast
      • He will do it
      • He can save about 5 miles going to Atlantic City instead of NYC. Not worth the trade off