Sometimes I honestly can't tell the difference between Laz & Fake Laz.
Robert Young fakes run across America
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The day the RV broke down wrote:
I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.
http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg
Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.
If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.
Awesome! You win Letsrun today, I think :-) I forgot about the Facebook messages claiming it was a 36-mile run. -
Ok guys based on a couple of comments, I edited the weird errors in the pacing data, and added a suggestion about the final segment potentially running HWY 95.
http://i.imgur.com/aaW1Kul.jpg -
not the full shilling? wrote:
He was really into fitness but just had absolutely no idea how to pace himself. Like Rob, he would go crazy for bursts followed by low periods of waking and collapsing into the ground often in a very dramatic manner.
The erratic pacing is an obvious indication that he doesn't think rationally. I once questioned a well-known high schooler here on the board for his "crazy" pacing. Actually letsrunners are quite polite, and they just brushed me off. Fortunately I didn't pursue the subject. A little later I saw that he had won the mile in some games for the mentally impaired (not the correct term I guess). -
Did not expect this. Hampton Inn apparently works wonders. After about 4 hours back at the Terre Haute Hampton Inn, RY has been right back at it clipping off about 9 miles in the past 75 minutes.
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I know Joe personally and would love nothing more than to see this showdown to set the record straight. If RY accepts, I'll bring the beer.
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These feel like live updates from the London Marathon or something...stretched over weeks instead of hours.
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some Indian guru wrote:
fred wrote:
"once, he just fell face down.
putting a lump and a cut on his forehead...
when his crew reached him, his face was covered with blood...
and he was asleep."
Thanks, that is great
It's called "karma".
The truth has few friends and no compassion. It is, however, true. -
SloughRunner wrote:
It's been posted before, but there seems to be a resemblance with Ron Obvious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ra5h17EbC8
I think he resembles this guy more.
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One question I would really like answered is how are they paying for all this?
Another question is what is costing all up for the lot of them, US$100,000/US$150,000?
I'd like to use the same MO because I've early retirement on the agenda and these blokes and blokettes seem to have it well worked out.
There's four members of the East Sheen Set and three of them are on this trip, Robert Young, Dustin Brooks and his wife Dominika who apparently is doing massage: http://watchfit.com/experts/fitness-and-personal-trainers/dominika-brooks-5937 -
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:
One question I would really like answered is how are they paying for all this?
There's four members of the East Sheen Set and three of them are on this trip, Robert Young, Dustin Brooks and his wife Dominika who apparently is doing massage: http://watchfit.com/experts/fitness-and-personal-trainers/dominika-brooks-5937
Charities.
One of the charities Rob is running for, was the organizer of his previous Transcon (which he won).
I don't think Dominika is on this trip, but there is some very weird East Sheen Polish connection going on. -
She was mentioned on an RY site update as DB's wife giving RY a massage(I think, can't be bothered checking).
But yeah, lots of East Sheen connections going on. -
Exifmaster wrote:
I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.
I just uploaded the photos and screenshoots. Please send me an email address. -
not the full shilling? wrote:
second thought wrote:
not the full shilling? wrote:
What I'm starting to pick up on from this is that Rob may actually not be the ful shilling which is a British term for saying that someone is a little mentally retarded. In fact, what we could be looking at is someone with severe mental issues who needs help and support in a number of different ways.
If his background story is indeed true then it is little wonder plus who knows what he experienced in the army which has a track record of causing mental issues.
I am starting to think that the number one priority right now is Rob's physical safety in terms of sun stroke as well as exhaustion. Once the 'run' is over, regardless of the outcome, I feel that Rob will then require mental support to help get him over this.
However, like all support, it will only work if he looks in the mirror and truly acknowledges his delusions and puts them right. I think we would all have a lot of support and respect if he put his hands up and said this and then went on to achieve a number of genuine running results. He is still very young for ultras so who knows what he could go on to achieve. Plus, now he is very well know and people like Laz I'm sure would only be too happy to help him down the line if he steps up and takes responsibility for this fraudulent attempt as well as his past ones.
I really hope when this is over that Rob can emerge in a better place and comes out healthier both mentally & physically.
This is one the most important posts in the thread. If he really is mentally retarded (or whatever PC diagnosis you have) that would explain a lot. For example his erratic pacing or his uploading of photos of pro cyclists, etc. I've met ruthless swindlers who are extremely likable guys but Robert doesn't fit into that category. All his cheating/lying is so obvious.
I'm a bit torn after that post. Frankly I wouldn't mind see a notorious cheater and fraudster run himself to death. But if he's really not "full shilling" (love those Brits!) he needs help.
The reason I mention this is not to have another dig at the guy but actually out of concern from hearing today's report.
I once knew a guy who was in the army back here in the UK and his behaviour was a bit like this but not on this scale. He was really into fitness but just had absolutely no idea how to pace himself. Like Rob, he would go crazy for bursts followed by low periods of waking and collapsing into the ground often in a very dramatic manner.
Now this guy suffered as it turns out from a number of mental issues initally caused by an abusive step-dad which were made worse I believe by being in the army. I think Rob is crying out for help in many ways here and I hope that he will be able to get it at the end but only if he helps himself first.
The other thing that rings out here is that the guy I knew was one of the most likeable blokes you could ever hope to meet. He was renowned for stopping and chatting to anyone and anybody that would stop and listen to him.
Now that I read this, it seems like this RY guy is almost like a less talented Gerry Lindgren. Well liked guy making a sincere effort, but just full of loony ideas about his accomplishments and abilities. -
Markus wrote:
Exifmaster wrote:
I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.
I just uploaded the photos and screenshoots. Please send me an email address.
Is there any exif data in them? If so, what's the latest we can confirm RY was at the RV? -
MightyUlist wrote:
The day the RV broke down wrote:
I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.
http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg
Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.
If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.
Nicely done. This needs to go in the google docs summary.
I'm assuming I can edit a ps file in gimp. I'd like to add a little re: the Hwy 95 stretch. Is that shared somewhere? -
Markus wrote:
Exifmaster wrote:
I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.
I just uploaded the photos and screenshoots. Please send me an email address.
www.imgur.com -
RYinvestigator wrote:
Markus wrote:
Exifmaster wrote:
I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.
I just uploaded the photos and screenshoots. Please send me an email address.
http://www.imgur.com
No, sorry, this would remove the exif data.
Use https://www.wetransfer.com/ -
RYinvestigator wrote:
Markus wrote:
Exifmaster wrote:
I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.
I just uploaded the photos and screenshoots. Please send me an email address.
http://www.imgur.com
Email address please. -
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