bluemt95 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/KFj0DHere you all guy. I'm sure you can figure out which one is me.
RYinvestigator wrote:Just use
http://www.imgur.comVery easy.
Why is Ian Thorpe in the picture?
bluemt95 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/KFj0DHere you all guy. I'm sure you can figure out which one is me.
RYinvestigator wrote:Just use
http://www.imgur.comVery easy.
Why is Ian Thorpe in the picture?
If he has automiles on then yes this will prove it. Remember every quote and race talks of him going out at a crazy pace and slowing up. When we see 30+ mile sections (with ascents) at sub 7:00 min/miling if he started at 6'30 pace, and finished at 7'00 then it is possible that he was the worst pacer in the world (in normal races) and he is a lot better than his pbs.
His cadence is automatically logged (you cannot turn it off) if we see a cadence of 160 on the slower sections, and then 0 on the ridiculously long and quick ones then we know he was in an RV.
He needs to show the mile splits and the cadence to help convince the doubters (and we can then see the route he took). The cadence is definitely there and this might prove he cheated.
As of 8:59AM PT (12:00PM ET) on 6/14/16:
107 miles from Indy, 832 from Times Square.
56.15 mpd required to achieve record.
On pace for 62.2 miles today but some more, steeper hills today. The 50-100-150 foot variety but still take their toll. He will most likely slow down this afternoon. Still would like to see more Letsrun boots in the ground.
354 hours remaining.
I wouldn't pay any money for his watch data. Reward the guy if he cheated? The truth about this event is going to come fully to light anyway.
Also, someone mentioned that Rob himself claims he made some mistakes in the last leg, probably hot dogging a couple of 6 minute miles and running further than he is capable of sustaining, but less than he has documented previously.
Still the dude is pretty amazing. Even if he isn't ultra-Laz certified or very fast, I wouldn't knock what he is actually capable of on the endurance side. Wouldn't pay him a dime for it either though, and there's the catch.
Seems like he is not a quitter. We'll see.
You need to put the crayons down and let an adult proof read your next post.
Ha ha! Thanks for the laugh! You made my day!
Do you have any validation of this?
If you really want to derail the scamming, this will have more teeth than suspect times in the desert. of course, this should be rewritten into something coherent.
"We" - You're just another depressed basement recluse hunkered down for mom's next meal.
Tell us more of how you would do things if you got back on your meds and could get out of the house.
It actually doesn't.
From the blog:
"Alvin turned up within a half an hour in his shiny new pick-up. He soon got us out of there and we were very lucky, by all accounts. If we’d been in a Chevy, by all accounts, we’d never have gotten out. Ford RV’s are ‘strong as shit’ apparently. Rob had called on the mobile since and told us to meet him in Laughlin. Once we’d gotten out we headed out to the 95 and to Laughlin. A shortish drive through the early morning heat took us to Nevada and the town of Laughlin. Goodbye California. One state down, 13 more to go. We’re making progress.
In Laughlin when Rob turned up and we met at the Riverside RV park, his lips were parched and he was tired but in good spirits. Apparently he had scrambled off road again, through the desert, over a big hill. I wish we’d been there to see it but we were just glad he had made it, as he always does. The tracker, in response to a couple of queries on social media, had remained in the RV during our separation, which it does much of the time. It’s purpose is for folk to see where we are at, at any given time, not to measure speed, mileage or performance – that’s what the GPS watch is for."
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/2016/05/21/day-3-5-a-pick-up-for-a-hiccup/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
So if you read this, what he actually says is to meet him in Laughlin, and then he eventually "turns up" - which at least implies that they got to Laughlin before him.
Bottom line: without him wearing a GPS watch, there is no way to prove or disprove what he ran that day.
it just gets better wrote:
rojo wrote:He said they mainly track him by driving ahead and waiting for him but also at times hide guys on the side so it's not predictable.
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This made me spit out my coffee. I love how ridiculous this whole thing is. They get a team of guys to go down there and watch him, but they don't even watch him, instead they would rather drive ahead and wait? Priceless. When driving slowly is too much work over just sitting, you can't make this stuff up.
I'm guessing you have neither participated-in, nor organised the logistics for a multi-day event on open roads.
You cannot have a caravan of vehicles putzing along the highway impeding traffic, it is both less safe and elevates tensions with the {impatient} motorists and local authorities.
It is much safer to simply drive to a vantage point ahead of the runner - wait for them to pass and move to the end of your line of sight, then rinse and repeat.
The van was definitely putzing along impeding traffic an hour ago. There's a hatch in the back where he walks behind the moving van to get in to change shirts and I presume for nutrition and drinks. While I stopped and talked to him and Laz for 5 minutes or so, the van was stopped right in the lane of traffic on Rt. 40. Now, granted, we are pretty much in the middle of nowhere, but the speed limit is 55 mph and vehicles had to safely pull around into oncoming traffic to get by. No one seemed bothered by this arrangement.
Natty Dread wrote:
it just gets better wrote:This made me spit out my coffee. I love how ridiculous this whole thing is. They get a team of guys to go down there and watch him, but they don't even watch him, instead they would rather drive ahead and wait? Priceless. When driving slowly is too much work over just sitting, you can't make this stuff up.
I'm guessing you have neither participated-in, nor organised the logistics for a multi-day event on open roads.
You cannot have a caravan of vehicles putzing along the highway impeding traffic, it is both less safe and elevates tensions with the {impatient} motorists and local authorities.
It is much safer to simply drive to a vantage point ahead of the runner - wait for them to pass and move to the end of your line of sight, then rinse and repeat.
LRC to the Rescue. wrote:
Seems like he is not a quitter. We'll see.
Because, basically, he has already "won" no matter what. If he blows up, "I gave it my best but those accusations hurt and having people stalk me was too much". If he finishes after the record "I overcame great adversity and finished". If he gets the record "Look at me for being amazing".
When it comes to running, Guinness is nondeterministic in its application of rules. Don't count on it being over just because he doesn't want to give letsrun chowderheads his data. He doesn't have to do that. Actually, for his likely desires, he'd probably be silly to do that. So he will ignore it. He apparently has what Guinness wants. Plus the money. Thing to know about Guinness is that they like to be paid. You pay them and things happen.
And as has been noted, aside from fame, there's the fortune aspect. Without an eyeball on him riding in the van, there is no eyewitness of cheating. It'll look hinky forever, but if letsrun is seriously going to play the fraud card against the charity, that is harder than just being pissed off on an old timey message board.
What this stuff can do is seriously curtail the influx of new devotees to Robert Mandela Christ, Inc.
Also MAYBE put a little extra fear or thoughtfulness for the next huckster who wants to make fast money off something like this.
Had to google Ian Thorpe. :/ They do look similar.
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi wrote:
bluemt95 wrote:http://imgur.com/a/KFj0DHere you all guy. I'm sure you can figure out which one is me.
Why is Ian Thorpe in the picture?
First day posting here?
turrible wrote:
This is, by far, the worst structured forum I've ever read.
Ok guys...I was up all night watching the Big East Junior Varsity Summer Classic, so bear with me...I have a couple questions.
1. What exactly is a "GPS" watch? What is it made of? What does it do?
2. What is the name of the man trying to beat the record? This seems like important information.
3. What continent is he attempting to cross?
4. If we had video of him driving the van thru the entire state of New Mexico, would that be incriminating?
5. I really feel like we should fly someone in.
Ok thanks guys.
PS, I just got off the phone with Robert. He said the whole thing is a sham for publicity & beer money. What do you think this means? More research is needed....
Strava is going to laugh at your request. They are a software company. They aren't going to fly an employee out to a moving RV to upload data for you, whether it's your dime or theirs.
Your best bet is to raise this to TomTom UK and to Guiness and tell them that the proof of cheating or legitimacy in this WR attempt resides on their servers but is not being made public for unknown reasons. And that you have lots of data that is indicative that cheating is the more likely scenario. TomTom UK may enable a look at the data that RY has uploaded but since hidden or deleted (there is no such thing as deleted as surely you know)
i chose D2 wrote:
[quote]rojo wrote:
Watch experts, I need your help. I just got an email from someone here it is.
Fly DC Rainmaker in from Paris. He is a neutral third party who can be trusted to make sure the data is transferred properly without being tampered with. And the best part is that when he sees the data he can expose Rob in his blog, which is likely read by many of Rob's disciples.
+1
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/contact"The pedestrian is not caring a flashlight. The pedestrian is carrying a cellphone."
"He was trying to get a signal so he could upload data."
Good one! I love the comedy around here!