AJEE WILSON LOOKS DEFEATED - The Semenya Effect?

acebond wrote:

http://www.iaaf.org/news/report/jimmy-vicaut-european-100m-record-montreuil

It's official.....the 800m final will finish 1-2-3 with intersexed females. It will be a spectacular spectacle.

Wow...just wow. What a can of worms.

If you have a Y chromosome, you don't belong in the women's race

It took less than a year after the CAS ruling to find three xy individuals to potentially medal at the Olympics. Absent rulings to reverse this, women's sports in 5-10 years will be a whole new "ball"game.

I can find 10 races of El G, Geb, and Bekele of moving "easily through the field" including some Kiprop races and destroy everybody.

pop! is racist and sexist. Semenya is legal, which IS WHY SHE IS RUNNING IN THE OLYMPICS... people SMARTER THAN pop are involved in the decision making.

XX no Y wrote:

It took less than a year after the CAS ruling to find three xy individuals to potentially medal at the Olympics. Absent rulings to reverse this, women's sports in 5-10 years will be a whole new "ball"game.

I give it three years. Some of the XX women will stubbornly hang on, but it will be a different sport in 24 months with the third year obviously the end of XX T&F.

Is being intersexed actually cheating? I don't think so. These women were born that way and didn't use anything artificial to enhance their abilities. Save your complaints for the CAS not innocent athletes. Bitter losers like Lyndsey Sharp and Ajee Wilson refusing to shake hands are misdirecting their anger. At least Eunice Sum is always gracious ready with a congratulatory hug at the end of races.

El Keniano wrote:

Is being intersexed actually cheating? I don't think so. These women were born that way and didn't use anything artificial to enhance their abilities. Save your complaints for the CAS not innocent athletes. Bitter losers like Lyndsey Sharp and Ajee Wilson refusing to shake hands are misdirecting their anger. At least Eunice Sum is always gracious ready with a congratulatory hug at the end of races.

It is not cheating as in taking PEDs but does being intersex give those athletes an unfair advantage? That could well be the case. Imagine a race where only youth athletes could compete. Then imagine the race with age restrictions removed and senior athletes allowed to compete. The senior athletes dominate the race. Is being older cheating? No. Is it an unfair advantage in a race that was previously only open to youth athletes? Yes.

I give it three years. Some of the XX women will stubbornly hang on, but it will be a different sport in 24 months with the third year obviously the end of XX T&F.

The fans will lose interest in the event. I use to enjoy watching the women's 800m, now I don't watch it and don't care to watch it because the event has become a joke - it is no longer a competitive event.

El Keniano wrote:

At least Eunice Sum is always gracious ready with a congratulatory hug at the end of races.

I don't see much hugging going on. I think you'll find Semenya goes around to every finisher and holds out her hand for a handshake, and actually taps them on the back if they're bent over pretending not to see her approaching, they then reluctantly offer a limp hand, mainly because they can do without the media coverage if they didn't. But perhaps you're watching different TV coverage to me.

Les wrote:

It is not cheating as in taking PEDs but does being intersex give those athletes an unfair advantage?

Sharp is the daughter of a 2.02 female 800m runner and an international sprinter. Talk about unfair genetic advantage!

Not much hugging going on. wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

At least Eunice Sum is always gracious ready with a congratulatory hug at the end of races.

I don't see much hugging going on. I think you'll find Semenya goes around to every finisher and holds out her hand for a handshake, and actually taps them on the back if they're bent over pretending not to see her approaching, they then reluctantly offer a limp hand, mainly because they can do without the media coverage if they didn't. But perhaps you're watching different TV coverage to me.

One race and one hug. Sum didn't give her a hug, she was the recipient, Semenya initiated and gave the hug. If she hadn't gone around everyone they would have ignored her, except of course for the other doubtful female.

El Keniano wrote:

Not much hugging going on. wrote:

I don't see much hugging going on. I think you'll find Semenya goes around to every finisher and holds out her hand for a handshake, and actually taps them on the back if they're bent over pretending not to see her approaching, they then reluctantly offer a limp hand, mainly because they can do without the media coverage if they didn't. But perhaps you're watching different TV coverage to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpGqV64g1bk

Have another look pal, Sum took Semenya's hand and kept her left hand on her hip, Semenya put her left hand on Sum's back and tried to pull her towards her, wasn't a hug, especially from Sum. Stop making stuff up all the time, especially when there's videographic evidence.

I hope you all have intersex daughters so you can experience this personally. Would be quite humbling.

Womens' 800m running is being sacrificed at the altar of political correctness and the relative high media profile of transgenderism currently being popularised (if that is the word) by Caitlyn Jenner, etc..

Its also being supported by the typical type of nerdy misogynistic male that sits behind computer keyboards spewing out vitriol against half the population, which has more to do with their own track record than any biological imperative.

Surely all that is needed is that where a chromosomal difference from a biological woman gives a physical advantage in another sport, the athlete should run in the more difficult category opened up to them by that genetic differentiation. ie Semenay, Nyonsaba, etc should run with the men. Why do intersex or transgender athletes ALWAYS want to run in the easier category (with the women)?

Athletics needs to get this sorted out, or look forward to biological women competing in the Olympics becoming a relative rarity and to amputees with highly engineered limbs breaking world records in non-disability sport.

8FE wrote:

I hope you all have intersex daughters so you can experience this personally. Would be quite humbling.

What about all of the daughters who aren't intersex and will now be put off competing in athletics. Well done.