Hoity wrote:
Flyin Phil wrote:I was watching the Caster in the Rome Diamond League last night with my 10 year old daughter. After Caster won she asked me, "Why is that man running in the women's race?" She had never seen him/her before and I had never discussed this with her.
Oh you poor thing you had to be a parent and explain to your daughter that not everyone is born the same. I just don't know how you managed.
^ WTF kind of post is that???
Gender Fluid hehe ;)
Speculation wrote:
But she's obviously of XX chromosome, otherwise the IOC wouldn't even entertain the idea of possibly allowing her
You more confidence in the IOC than I do.
chilhowee wrote:
What's disgusting is that Semenya gets to snicker into her armpit at a ruinous legal judgement that allows her to compete as a man against women. The judgement steals from all female athletes, it steals from great runners like Eunice Sum, Agee Wilson, Melissa Bishop, Alysia Montano and others, who have worked for years developing their talent and rising to the highest level of their event. Now, their effort has been negated by a bunch of plutocrats from castle in Switzerland. Now Semenya runs wide in the 2nd lane on every turn of every race and still crushes the field in the homestretch, in a manner that wasn't possible even just last year, prior to the CAS's ruling.
Semenya is maximizing an unfair advantage she's been given. She has no qualms about destroying, crushing, or taking from her fellow competitors. Her actions convey a self-interest over everything. She's a physical freak, yes, but she's also a moral cretin.
^^^this^^^
To add insult to injury (s)he doesnt even try to look or act like a women. She is married to a women and wore a tux to her wedding, nothing says "women" more than that.
Speculation wrote:
This is speculation. WE DONT KNOW what caster's condition is! The information hasn't been released!! But she's obviously of XX chromosome, otherwise the IOC wouldn't even entertain the idea of possibly allowing her to compete.
You are totally wrong and don't know what you're posting.
Semenya is a guy, and that's why people are speaking up about him.
What a load of hogwash wrote:
You are totally wrong and don't know what you're posting.
Semenya is a guy, and that's why people are speaking up about him.
How do you know? Show me proof.
Three finals in each event:
1. Women's, meaning only women hormonally, morphologically and genetically.
2. Men's
3. Open, other - you choose the name.
TALK OF INJUSTICE wrote:
Where are all the human rights' activists when you need them? We have fought hard to liberate black people, women, gays and lesbians, disabled and others long-oppressed by society and when we think we are making progress, we sink to a new low. If they have to allow Semenya and Niyonsaba to compete against women ...
The essence of banning doped athletes from the games is because they have more advantage over the rest of the field. With Semenya and Niyonsaba and any other intersex athlete competing, the fight against doping is a complete joke. Its very disheartening to watch the likes of Ajee Wilson, Eunice Sum etc try to compete against the two. Its like entering a motorcycle in a bicycle competition! All female athletes should threaten to boycott the games unless the IOC either creates another race category for the likes of Semenyas or disallows them from competing in the games. Unless the women athletes unite and fight this injustice as a team, IOC will do nothing.
Semenya has every right to compete with women as she has been classified as a woman by the sport's governing bodies. Besides it is very sexist and outdated to argue that men and women should be competing separately in sports. In most other professions today, men and women have to perform to the same levels.
The govenring bodies need to do away with the current grossly unjust sex discrimination that is going on and have just open competiion so every single person has the same right to compete. It is the only way to clear up this mess.
Except that in the case of track & field, men and women cannot perform to the same levels. Name one event on the track, where it is reasonable to expect men and women to "perform to the same levels".
Strongsad wrote:
Is there any evidence niyonsaba is actually hyperandrogenistic or is she just getting categorized?
Here she is in 2012 London, and 2016 Portland. She looks exactly the same as the other girls.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/russias-mariya-savinova-and-burundis-francine-niyonsaba-news-photo/150054303You can Google more photos of her, but it's mainly her face that makes her look manly, but I'm not convinced that isn't something cultural.
To contrast, look at photos of semenya and see the difference. You can see differences in the Abs, biceps, shoulders, and even pecs.
Looking buff isn't the only sign of being hyperandrogenistic. But I'd wanna see more evidence before we accuse someone of something.
I've not seen any evidence against Niyansaba either and have searched for it.
This appears to be just another Letsrun witchhunt with no grounds, but if they really want to just toss someone in there with Semenya for dramatic effect, then Radcliffe is a more likely choice.
Flyin Phil wrote:
I was watching the Caster in the Rome Diamond League last night with my 10 year old daughter. After Caster won she asked me, "Why is that man running in the women's race?" She had never seen him/her before and I had never discussed this with her.
lol nothin like making up stories to tell LRC
Look at what a loser Lynsey Sharp is.. maybe Andy Vernon was right.
She flats out says "there's two different races" insinuating that Semenya and the other girl are cheating because the race was won in 1:56.92.
She then says in the same damn article, I guess all I can hope for is the British Record of 1:56.2!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a dunce!
Joke is on us! wrote:
chilhowee wrote:What's disgusting is that Semenya gets to snicker into her armpit at a ruinous legal judgement that allows her to compete as a man against women. The judgement steals from all female athletes, it steals from great runners like Eunice Sum, Agee Wilson, Melissa Bishop, Alysia Montano and others, who have worked for years developing their talent and rising to the highest level of their event. Now, their effort has been negated by a bunch of plutocrats from castle in Switzerland. Now Semenya runs wide in the 2nd lane on every turn of every race and still crushes the field in the homestretch, in a manner that wasn't possible even just last year, prior to the CAS's ruling.
Semenya is maximizing an unfair advantage she's been given. She has no qualms about destroying, crushing, or taking from her fellow competitors. Her actions convey a self-interest over everything. She's a physical freak, yes, but she's also a moral cretin.
^^^this^^^
To add insult to injury (s)he doesnt even try to look or act like a women. She is married to a women and wore a tux to her wedding, nothing says "women" more than that.
Is that true?
Man I feel like woman, tu tu tutuu tu tutu
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